shrugs My public high school was doing this–unannounced–in the '90s. We’d be in class having a normal day, and an announcement would come on. Put your stuff in the hall, then go back in your classroom. They locked us in while they were doing it.
They locked us in the cafeteria at lunch, too.
Here is the exact email I received:
Students are now gone, but even if they were here I would not be able to tell them anything.
But the dog in Jardine never entered the home; it smelled what was coming from inside it, just as it would have smelled what was coming from luggage or a car trunk or whatever. I’m not saying it is some fundamental sea change in dog sniff jurisprudence, just that the boundaries are less clear now than before.
Color me bad at reading comprehension, then.
It’s legal. I myself do not afford the same civil liberties to minors as I do to adults, so it’s not that offensive to me.
Also, is this just a K9 sniff or a physical search, going through pockets and bags and such? If it’s the later, then I have more to say on it.
What kind of search? K9 sniff or a physical search entering the vehicle itself? If the later I either call BS:dubious: or want to know why this hasn’t been challenged. Show me anywhere else where the general public has access to a lot that would give private or public owners authority to open up ones vehicle and search. In fact, not even a vehicle that is trespass parking provides RS or PC for a search. I’ve never seen such signage at court houses and government buildings.
Courthouses and government buildings are not schools.
Why not? The email doesn’t say anything about that. I’d forward it to every student I had email address for, and let them spread the word and organize a protest.
Then I’d probably start a search for a job at a school that didn’t do this kind of crap. Jesus.
One wonders if school administrators have ever heard the term “social media”?
Yeah, even supposedly well-trained dogs can go all “Clever Hans” by cues from the officer/handler.
I don’t have a problem with this
Imagine if it saves one student’s life who would have died from a marijuana overdose if the dog hadn’t found it in his coat. Wouldn’t you say it’s worth it
Its just as likely they are looking for weapons.
Not sure if you’re joking. Marijuana overdose?
But in the Bible, people get executed by being stoned.
We’ve done this dance before. You can form your own opinion on what you personally think SHOULD be right regarding stops and searches, but over the past 2-3 decades, with IMO relatively minor exceptions, the trend has been to allow authorities greater latitude to conduct what many of us would consider searches.
If you want privacy, do it in your home with the shades drawn, and without using electronic media/appliances. Certainly not in a school or in your car. Warrantless/causeless searches of schools are not at all new. I’m a little surprised foule would be surprised by this. The current state of the law IMO sucks, but it is settled. Remember - it’s for the children! :rolleyes:
If you want to fight this, it can be done at the school district level, and through parental/media objection. Tho these searches are permissible, they are certainly not required.
Read it again. It’s right there in the Subject line: “Do NOT publish this e-mail on the front page of the New York Times!”
Having been in education a long time, my instinct is that that email is to make sure STAFF don’t show up with anything, which would be awkward and more complicated.
Actually, it says “please” indicating it is a request. Is it too late to spread bacon bits all over campus?
I understand your meaning and agree, but as far as anyone knows, nobody has ever died from a marijuana overdose.
If the OP is concerned, give your local ACLU a call after work. If they’re concerned, they can try for an injunction to stop it. If they’re not, there’s not anything else I can suggest.
Is the search for drugs or weapons/explosives? Have there been any occurrences at the school lately that would suggest a reason for a search now?
Dragwyr, have you discussed this with other teachers at your school? (You’re at least allowed to do that, aren’t you?) If so, does there seem to be any consensus of opinion among them about it?
In other words, are you in good company in your attitude about this, or are you the lone voice crying in the wilderness?
ETA: What would happen if the teachers were to conduct a massive sick-out for the day?