Any of you with jobs might want to look over your employer’s policy manuals, because I’m quite sure a hell of a lot of them stipulate that your vehicles etc. can be subject to search while on company property.
And I’m sure a “one day boycott” would be really effective.
So there is a period of time between when the bags and coats were under students control and the time such items are searched? And during this process of placing the belonging in the hallway others students are doing the same thing and also have access to other student’s items? Cause if so I’m putting my weed in Suzie’s bag while I’m in the hallway.
Wouldn’t it be better to search the students individually as they enter the building?
Yeah - exactly this,
School and personal belongings isn’t exactly the most secure environment -
That’s some extremely weak evidence. If you actually read them, the first link discusses a study that had a sample size of only 20 (not large enough to be statistically significant) and they only found some “differences” in certain structures, but they fully admit they have no clue what it really means:
The second article, which is mostly an opinion piece, cites two studies that claim people who used cannabis persistently during developmental phases (and sometimes beyond), “lost” IQ points in adulthood, moreso than those who did not. They also did some flat comparisons of people who had and hadn’t smoked marijuana, which doesn’t prove much:
And brings up the correlation/causation flaw:
So freaking what? Show me what allows authorities to break into a non-students locked car without any warrant, reasonable suspicion, or probable cause just because they parked in a school lot while they went in to pick up their transcripts.
Case law and statutory law says no AFAIK. A sign that says ANY car can be searched is B.S. and I challenge that claim.
I come out of a building and someone is inside my vehicle poking around, regardless of where I parked, we’re going to dance.
I’m probably the lone wolf on this. Based on what I know about the teachers they would not have a problem with this. On the other hand the teachers don’t really like administration.
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he county where I live has high drug use among teens. I’ve heard of teachers talking about how students of theirs were suspended for drug use during school hours. My educated guess is that this is for drugs.
I don’t think we’re talking about non-student cars. I’m not, at least.
Just to clarify, topekasnews dot com is satire, and pretty obvious satire at that. I mean, look at the other posts by “Haywood Bynum III”. Stuff like “Krokodil Marijuana Sweeps Across Colorado, Residents Eating Each Other In The Streets” and “Marijuana Causes Biblical Plague To Break Out in Colorado.”
First, I believe you are factually correct wrt vehicle searches.
Second, on first read I imagined you observing someone who has broken into and entered your car and your response was to begin singing Jump, Jive, and Wail and swing dancing wildly with the miscreant.
Thank you for that mental movie.
ETA: kids are in school to learn. I would hope parents and teachers will use an opportunity like this to discuss with students the various arguments for and against what is happening. Or do I expect too much?
No, it means “dad’s on the train”.
Locus is Latin for “place”, in takes the dative in this instance so in loco parentis is literally “in the place of the parent” (switch around the articles if you like, Latin does not have them)
A sign can generally imply consent at places like an airport checkpoint, where the passenger presents himself and impliedly consents to be searched. But you’re right – a sign in a parking lot generally cannot create consent to be searched.
Can dogs also detect pepper and chili, if sprinkled in liberal quantities around nd over many of the items to be searched?
Yes they can, and doing that to your school pack and such can lead to other sanctions/searches. New Jersey v T.L.O. settled that back in 1985.
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. New Jersey v. TLO is not relevant. That case involved a physical search of an individual student based on particularized suspicion, which is a completely different scenario.
I can accept that. Students generally have to fill out a form and get some kind of sticker/card for whatever vehicle they are going to bring to school. This usually includes a consent waiver for search. At least this is how it’s done around here, YMMV.
I’ve never been assigned as permanent liaison officer so I haven’t dealt with this stuff much. It’s a coveted position because it’s basically 7-3 with weekends and holidays off. I’d rather poke my eyes out than work in an entire building of those little pricks.
Sorry for the rough talk.:o
I hear you can get in trouble for looking at their pricks, so it’s probably for the best that you don’t have a liason job. 
Read for comprehension. My post was a direct response to md2000 directly above it. Putting pepper or oil on your pack to foil a search dog is certainly “reasonable suspicion” that the student is hiding illegal activity. That’s all an administrator needs to initiate a search. Kids at my school have tried it, and it always ends poorly for them.
Sure. Living in a police state offends me.
ETA: searching citizens’ possessions because it’s legal and people in authority feel like it, and hey, it’s only kids with limited rights. Fuck that. I thought “limited government” was a bipartisan value