# Is this more media noise or is the Obama Administration doing something shady? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 8, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596 "2014-07-08T01:10:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EndlessEntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f9ae1b/32.png) [@EndlessEntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EndlessEntropy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/1 "2014-07-08T01:10:11Z")
> **[Medical staff warned: Keep your mouths shut about illegal immigrants or face...](https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/medical-staff-warned-keep-your-mouths-shut-about-illegal-immigrants-or-face-arrest)** > > A government-contracted security force threatened to arrest doctors and nurses if they divulged any information about the contagion threat at a refugee camp housing illegal alien children at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, sources say. > **[Scabies Spreads Among Border Detainees | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/07/scabies-spreads-among-border-detainees-ryan-lovelace/)** > > Approximately 40 immigrants in detention at one center in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s San Diego Sector have active cases of scabies, a source tells National Review Online, and they cou… Seems like these infected people are being brought around the country and are in close quarters quarantine and the White House certainly knows about it. But I’m not seeing this story in many places and it originated from fox… ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/2 "2014-07-08T01:40:00Z")
Looks like pretty standard “no leaks” protocols. All administrations issue such directives in times of potentially damaging controversy. “Don’t give fuel to the torch-bearing mob!” ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/3 "2014-07-08T02:24:10Z")
> [@EndlessEntropy](#): > > [http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/02/medical-staff-warned-keep-quiet-about-illegal-immigrants-or-face-arrest/](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/02/medical-staff-warned-keep-quiet-about-illegal-immigrants-or-face-arrest/) > > [http://www.nationalreview.com/article/382080/scabies-spreads-among-border-detainees-ryan-lovelace](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/382080/scabies-spreads-among-border-detainees-ryan-lovelace) > > Seems like these infected people are being brought around the country and are in close quarters quarantine and the White House certainly knows about it. > > But I’m not seeing this story in many places and it originated from fox… Given the tone of the story from Fox — I’m inclined to think it’s less than accurate ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/4 "2014-07-08T03:07:41Z")
OMG young children with lice?! Shut it down immediately! Wait, I think that means we have to shut down nearly every preschool, daycare and private home in the country. If suggest y’all keep trying with Benghazi. Maybe it will work one day. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/5 "2014-07-08T09:56:58Z")
> [@](#): > > The sources say security forces called themselves the “Brown Shirts.” You know who else had security forces called Brown Shirts? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/6 "2014-07-08T10:04:54Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You know who else had security forces called Brown Shirts? How can I get a job as a “source?” Heck, I could say all sorts of shit all day and have media types quote me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/7 "2014-07-08T11:43:27Z")
Well, since those links are from Fox News and the National Review, surely they are onto something huge here… ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/8 "2014-07-08T11:48:58Z")
I think the answer on this one is that we don’t have enough information to know one way or the other. I wouldn’t put much past this bunch, but is anyone really clueless enough to use the term “Brown Shirts”? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/9 "2014-07-08T16:08:11Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You know who else had security forces called Brown Shirts? The Independents? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/10 "2014-07-08T16:11:18Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Given the tone of the story from Fox — I’m inclined to think it’s less than accurate Aye, that’s some serious -mongering join’ on there. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/11 "2014-07-08T16:24:59Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > You know who else had security forces called Brown Shirts? Maybe their shirts are brown. I used to volunteer at an annual music festival and every year the volunteers got different coloured tee shirts. Guess what joke got beat to death the year the shirts were brown? You know who else beat jokes to death? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/12 "2014-07-08T17:14:49Z")
Gilbert Gottfried? > [@EndlessEntropy](#): > > Seems like these infected people are being brought around the country and are in close quarters quarantine and the White House certainly knows about it. What do you want the White House to _do_ about it? Scabies is a relatively minor condition, and you certainly can’t catch it by sharing a bus with a carrier (it requires skin-to-skin contact in all but the rarest of conditions). It’s more dangerous to allow a flu carrier to move around freely. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/13 "2014-07-08T17:20:38Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > I wouldn’t put much past this bunch, but is anyone really clueless enough to use the term “Brown Shirts”? UPS guys? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/14 "2014-07-08T18:26:34Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Scabies is a relatively minor condition, and you certainly can’t catch it by sharing a bus with a carrier (it requires skin-to-skin contact in all but the rarest of conditions). It’s more dangerous to allow a flu carrier to move around freely. That’s why Fox has moved on from scabies: [Immigration crisis: Tuberculosis spreading at camps](http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/07/immigration-crisis-tuberculosis-spreading-at-camps/) > [@](#): > > However, at least a half dozen anonymous sources, including nurses and health care providers who worked at Lackland, allege that the government is covering up what they believe to be a very serious health threat. > > Several of my sources tell me that tuberculosis has become a dangerous issue at both the border and the camps. > > “The amount of tuberculosis is astonishing,” one health care provider told me. “The nurses are telling us the kids are really sick. The tuberculosis is definitely there.” ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/15 "2014-07-08T19:03:24Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Maybe their shirts are brown. I used to volunteer at an annual music festival and every year the volunteers got different coloured tee shirts. Guess what joke got beat to death the year the shirts were brown? > > You know who else beat jokes to death? 9gag and 4Chan? ---
**Author:** ![EndlessEntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f9ae1b/32.png) [@EndlessEntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EndlessEntropy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/16 "2014-07-08T23:34:37Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Given the tone of the story from Fox — I’m inclined to think it’s less than accurate Are you suggesting Fox is lying? Are there any specific examples of Fox lying in news stories? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/17 "2014-07-08T23:54:09Z")
> [@EndlessEntropy](#): > > Are you suggesting Fox is lying? Are there any specific examples of Fox lying in news stories? There are plenty of examples of Fox News publishing a claim that was factually incorrect. Is that what you mean by “lying?” ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/18 "2014-07-08T23:58:01Z")
Well, gosh. If the kids are really sick then I guess we better get them out of these “camps” and get them to a hospital where we can look after them properly. I mean, we certainly can’t put dying children back on a bus and just ship them away, right? Sounds like we need to arrange proper care for them. They’ll each need a guardian, of course.They’ll need court appointed people to look out for their well-being. I mean, surely the people at Fox are motivated by providing proper care and homes for children on our doorstep, right? That’s what’s upsetting them, isn’t it? The idea that these children aren’t receiving medical care? They aren’t suggesting we should turn our backs on the desperately ill children, right? Right? > [@Todd Starnes](#): > > My sources say Americans should be very concerned about the secrecy of the government camps. > > “This is just the beginning,” one source told me. "It is a long-term financial responsibility.” Guess not. ---
**Author:** ![EndlessEntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f9ae1b/32.png) [@EndlessEntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EndlessEntropy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/19 "2014-07-09T00:26:04Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > There are plenty of examples of Fox News publishing a claim that was factually incorrect. > > Is that what you mean by “lying?” Yeah I found a lot of examples, wow. It’s quite pathetic really, especially their manipulation of footage and information. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596/20 "2014-07-09T01:15:36Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Well, since those links are from Fox News and the National Review, surely they are onto something huge here… Yeah, I clicked on the NR link. The second I saw a teaser at the top of the page that read: _Finally, justice in the George Zimmerman case. Spike Lee sued._ I thought to myself: Oh yeah, this site seems 'legit". /Sarcasm [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-more-media-noise-or-is-the-obama-administration-doing-something-shady/692596.md?page=2)