OK. Just to recap the points Valteron has attempted to make.
Some two-bit cleric on what appears to be the Egyptian equivalent of a Wayne’s World TV broadcast, has told a story about tricking some poor Jew into converting to Islam, then chortling that this was a really good thing.
(No evidence has been provided that anyone in Egypt watches the show or regards the cleric with any more substance than the typical American regards the thousands of local broadcast Fundamentalist preachers, each with their dozens of viewers.)
Valteron posts a bit of nonsense that this cleric is involved in some form of taqiyya despite the facts that taqiyya was a concept that was only employed by Shi’a Muslims to save their lives from Sunni Muslims and has never been proposed as a legitimate, (or even illegitimate), manner to secure converts to Islam.
Valteron then demands to know whether the cleric is lying, with a subtext that he is clearly evuuul because he is Muslim.
There is no debate, here. The cleric is clearly lying. The cleric is clearly a scumbag along the lines of Swaggart and Hovind and similar creatures. The cleric is not employing taqiyya in his efforts.
Beyond that, Valteron has marched firmly into the realm of one trick pony in regards to Islam in Great Debates. If this thread had included and actual rant, I would move it to The BBQ Pit. Since it is simply an attempt to play “gotcha” with other posters, I am simply going to close it.
I am also going to note that if this one-trick-pony approach to Great Debates continues, we will probably consider letting Valteron find some other message board in which to play his games.
Closed.
[ /Moderating ]