# Is this non-commercial use? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 23, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-non-commercial-use/686796 "2014-04-23T19:05:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MannyL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MannyL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MannyL)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-non-commercial-use/686796/1 "2014-04-23T19:05:01Z")
I am a fan of a certain sports team. I need a new wallet and the idea of a wallet with their logo is appealing. Problem is they don’t offer it. In fact none of the teams in the league offer a wallet. The TOS of the website says the images can be used for non-commercial use. If I took the image of the logo from the site and used it on a single wallet for my use would that fall under non-commercial use? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-non-commercial-use/686796/2 "2014-04-23T19:11:28Z")
Absolutely. Now, if you had a third party company do it for you, it would be - because that third party would be benefiting from the deal. ---
**Author:** ![MannyL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MannyL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MannyL)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-non-commercial-use/686796/3 "2014-04-23T19:15:36Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Absolutely. Now, if you had a third party company do it for you, it would be - because that third party would be benefiting from the deal. So I can’t use Zazzle or another company that does custom wallets to make one. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-non-commercial-use/686796/4 "2014-04-23T19:18:29Z")
if you don’t sell the wallet then you aren’t getting commercial use. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-non-commercial-use/686796/5 "2014-04-23T19:33:16Z")
> [@MannyL](#): > > So I can’t use Zazzle or another company that does custom wallets to make one. Zazzle and other sites typically will not accept copyrighted or trademarked images for your projects, due licensing rules, etc. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-non-commercial-use/686796/6 "2014-04-23T19:50:24Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Zazzle and other sites typically will not accept copyrighted or trademarked images for your projects, due licensing rules, etc. Actually, Zazzle is licensed for [some brands.](http://www.zazzle.com/brands) ---
**Author:** ![Isilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Isilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isilder)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-non-commercial-use/686796/7 "2014-04-25T15:37:28Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Zazzle and other sites typically will not accept copyrighted or trademarked images for your projects, due licensing rules, etc. But there is difference… eg Disney, does not grant license for _non-commercial use_. Disney enforces copyright over each and every copy, no matter how non-commercial the use is. (They will say using a single frame from a movie is still making an illegal copy … ) Point is, the league gave license for individuals to make copies for non-commercial use! The OP can feel licensed to commission an artist/printer to produce the artwork _for her own use_. It should be all right, but of course Zazzle can refuse to do anything at their own discretion - I can’t make them agree to do it ! ---
**Author:** ![MannyL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MannyL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MannyL)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-non-commercial-use/686796/8 "2014-04-25T16:13:35Z")
Well initially my order was declined then I was able to get a letter from the team saying I had permission to use the image so they approved it the second time.