# Is this real or a hoax? (Reparations with a 'revolutionary mass organisation')

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 4, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614 "2021-06-04T12:43:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/21 "2021-06-04T14:39:34Z")

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I think that it’s real in that they’ll really take your money. With that said, considering [the person behind it](https://www.youtube.com/c/GaziKodzo) is a self-described:

> Atlanta **Stunt Queen** building a revolutionary movement like you’ve never seen before.

I’m pretty sure it’s more about someone getting their bills paid than anything else. It’s also so insignificant ([their YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRG8F68QoqbnEWg12U12GNw) has 860 subscribers) that I’m curious where the OP found out about them.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/22 "2021-06-04T14:41:26Z")

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Isn’t some of the conversation in this thread verging on “All Lives Matter” territory?

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/23 "2021-06-04T14:42:01Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Are you asking if it’s parody or not?

Yes. Surely it can’t be serious?

> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Anyway, I’m exempt, since my parents came over in the '50s, and on my mom’s side, they had fled the Nazis, so I should probably get some reparations from somewhere.

All these people declaring themselves exempt because of when their ancestors emigrated. D’you think it matters? I sure hope no one believes people are guilty on a individual level for things their ancestors did. And if it’s the country that’s guilty, then all tax payers will pick up the bill.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/24 "2021-06-04T14:44:13Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> I’m pretty sure it’s more about someone getting their bills paid than anything else. It’s also so insignificant ([their YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRG8F68QoqbnEWg12U12GNw) has 860 subscribers) that I’m curious where the OP found out about them.

It was on Twitter. But it was _so_ over-the-top I found it hard to believe it was serious. Guess people really are that crazy.

I wonder if anyone has actually donated?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/25 "2021-06-04T14:45:50Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> All these people declaring themselves exempt because of when their ancestors emigrated. D’you think it matters?

I think all these people are kidding around. You seem to be simultaneously taking the website seriously and not seriously.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/26 "2021-06-04T14:48:03Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I think all these people are kidding around. You seem to be simultaneously taking the website seriously and not seriously.

There is a serious movement for reparations, no? And plenty of people object to it on the same grounds.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/27 "2021-06-04T14:49:21Z")

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Did you want to discuss the issue of reparations, or this particular website? If you want to have a serious discussion on reparations, I would probably start it in GD, and I think we’ve already had multiple debates on it.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/28 "2021-06-04T14:52:23Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> There is a serious movement for reparations, no?

This isn’t that serious movement, but I won’t be offended if you send them money.

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> And plenty of people object to it on the same grounds.

Oh, that’s why we’re really here. In that case, what @RitterSport said.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/29 "2021-06-04T14:54:48Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Did you want to discuss the issue of reparations, or this particular website? If you want to have a serious discussion on reparations, I would probably start it in GD, and I think we’ve already had multiple debates on it.

Yeah, it’s been done already. I guess I just wasn’t expecting to see so many people answering like that.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/30 "2021-06-04T14:56:06Z")

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@DemonTree, if you’re interested in the case for reparations, apparently [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_for_Reparations) book is really good. I haven’t read it, because it’s not really something I’m interested in. Apparently, Coates does a really good job laying out the actual case, not the straw-manned version you might see in conservative media circles.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/31 "2021-06-04T15:30:02Z")

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A UK government minister actually used a similar excuse when ending financial support for land reform in Zimbabwe:

> [@Clare Short](#):
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> We are a new government from diverse backgrounds without links to former colonial interests. My own origins are Irish and as you know we were colonised not colonisers.

Total cop-out IMO. Her own origins are irrelevant; she was representing the country.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/32 "2021-06-04T15:50:08Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> It was on Twitter.

Please be a bit more helpful and tell us what tweeter account that was. As others commented, one has to be aware of the ones that try to makes us react by pointing at nuts and implying that all the ones even looking at some kind of reparation to be as bad as the few nuts out there.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/33 "2021-06-04T15:59:06Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Please be a bit more helpful and tell us what tweeter account that was. As others commented, one has to be aware of the ones that try to makes us react by pointing at nuts and implying that all the ones even looking at some kind of reparation to be as bad as the few nuts out there.

Sorry, I’ve got no idea. Twitter seems to be purposely designed to make sure you can never find things again.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/34 "2021-06-04T16:22:40Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> [blackhammer.org/](http://blackhammer.org/) reparations/

I suspect fraud and deception. \* _ **The Black Hammer: A Study of Black Power, Red Influence and White Alternatives** _\* was a anti communist/pro racist book about the supposed Communist takeover of the civil rights movement.  
[The Black Hammer - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Hammer)  
When you go back to the website, notice how they refer to each other as “comrade”?

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-real-or-a-hoax-reparations-with-a-revolutionary-mass-organisation/943614/35 "2021-06-04T16:34:06Z")

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