# Is this really acceptable in GD?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420>\
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**Created:** [May 1, 2014, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420 "2014-05-01T04:38:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/21 "2014-05-01T16:00:57Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Yes, I did report it, but even though a mod came in after this post to admonish two other posters for going at each other, not a word about that post. I’m dumbfounded, but maybe it’s OK to say this about “white people” when saying the same about "black people’ would likely get someone banned post haste.

Not sure I’m really following you here. Can you point to a specific sentence or phrase that you think shouldn’t be allowed due to its racism? So far, I’m not seeing it. Bias? Yes? A contorted beyond any reasonable recognition world view? Yes. Other than that, it sounds like many of **Der Trihs’s** no-bearing-on-reality rants.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/22 "2014-05-01T17:33:49Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Worse than racist. It’s too easy to falsify.

WHAM!

Best. Doper Answer. EVER.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/23 "2014-05-01T17:40:27Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Worse than racist. It’s too easy to falsify.

Exactly. We don’t want to kill all the black people. If we did, who would fix our decaying roads and bridges?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/24 "2014-05-01T18:20:50Z")

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I’m not entirely sure that post was racist (though I will hardly shed a tear if **Honesty** is banned.) He ascribes some unpleasant _views_ to white people, but that’s not exactly racist in my book. Prejudiced, certainly.

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**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/25 "2014-05-01T18:30:15Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Exactly. We don’t want to kill all the black people. If we did, who would fix our decaying roads and bridges?

All the [clownfish](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finding_Nemo) on this message board are such jokers. I hope they use them all for sushi!

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/26 "2014-05-01T18:42:47Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Anyone can post that: “The latest poll shows white Americans are less sensitive to issues of justice when the person accused is black”. But no one should accuse white posters on this MB of being so.

I hereby accuse white posters on this message board of being less sensitive to issues of justice when the person accused is black.

You think I’ve broken a rule by doing that?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/27 "2014-05-01T18:45:12Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> I hereby accuse white posters on this message board of being less sensitive to issues of justice when the person accused is black.
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> You think I’ve broken a rule by doing that?

All white posters on this board? And less sensitive to who-all black posters, or a particular black poster?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/28 "2014-05-01T18:45:56Z")

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All turquoise posters on this board are fucking dirtbags.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/29 "2014-05-01T19:10:39Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> (though I will hardly shed a tear if **Honesty** is banned.)

Could the board owners afford necessary reparations?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/30 "2014-05-01T19:10:59Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I agree. More than racism, it’s the easy attacks of group dynamics I’d like to see eliminated in Great Debates (and a pony. I’d really like a pony.). Such contribute nothing to debate and can be considered a form of bullying and an attempt to cut off debate when a debater thinks positions are indefensible.

So how does this interact with attacks on liberals, conservatives, republicans, democrats, etc.?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/31 "2014-05-01T19:12:38Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Could the board owners afford necessary reparations?

😃

No. But we could repatriate him to 4chan.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/32 "2014-05-01T19:19:02Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> He ascribes some unpleasant _views_ to white people, but that’s not exactly racist in my book. Prejudiced, certainly.

What distinction are you making between the two terms? “Prejudice towards race X” is how I define racism. How can someone say something prejudiced about white people and it not be racist?

And, no, I don’t mean people who happen to be white. I mean white people. **Honesty** ’s post is about white people in general.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/33 "2014-05-01T19:26:23Z")

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“All black people think _Basketball Wives_ is a good show.” Racist? Or just stupid?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/34 "2014-05-01T19:30:35Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And, no, I don’t mean people who happen to be white. I mean white people.

Albinos?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/35 "2014-05-01T19:34:55Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Albinos?

PC: the pigment deprived.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/36 "2014-05-01T19:46:52Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Albinos?

Spooks.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/37 "2014-05-01T19:49:00Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Spooks.

Ghosts? Albino Ghosts?

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/38 "2014-05-01T19:54:37Z")

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I think batshit insane posts like that one serve a good purpose, they allow me to use a fun phrase like “batshit insane post” that I don’t normally get to use.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/39 "2014-05-01T20:38:01Z")

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I disagree with most of the distinctions people are making here. Honesty didn’t say all white people. He just said white people, meaning collectively or generally. I don’t think anyone would get the impression from his posts that he thinks every single white person has the characteristics he describes.

Ultimately, what it really boils down to (and what I think people are dancing around) is the fact that what he said is so offensive and so removed from reality. It’s a lot worse to be a murderer than to have below average intelligence, and the notion that whites generally are out to kill as many blacks as possible is a lot loonier than the notion that blacks have on average lower intelligence than whites.

But these are subjective judgements (particularly the second). There’s no way to draw the line without making these judgments. People who like to think they are in favor of freedom of expression no matter how distasteful are trying to find some more objective difference. But they’re failing at it, IMO.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-acceptable-in-gd/687420/40 "2014-05-02T00:19:40Z")

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It’s also the lead-in of that post, which was was directed at people on this MB. Everything that follows, then, is directed at those same people. Maybe he wanted to pivot away from that lead-in, but he didn’t. And he only got a mod note, so it shouldn’t be a big deal. Unless, of course, he’s predisposed to continue making such comments.

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