# Is this really the all time best baseball tirade, or are there better ones?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 17, 2006, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-the-all-time-best-baseball-tirade-or-are-there-better-ones/364810 "2006-07-17T04:19:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-the-all-time-best-baseball-tirade-or-are-there-better-ones/364810/1 "2006-07-17T04:19:34Z")

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[Lee Elia Press Conference Tirade](http://www.speakeasy.org/~bucky/elia_tirade.html)

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-the-all-time-best-baseball-tirade-or-are-there-better-ones/364810/2 "2006-07-17T04:57:35Z")

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My opinion is that this is a fake, much as I assume the Earl Weaver interview is.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-the-all-time-best-baseball-tirade-or-are-there-better-ones/364810/3 "2006-07-17T05:28:16Z")

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It appears to be legit.

> **[ESPN.com: MLB - Elia's tirade becomes part of Cubs' lore](https://www.espn.com/mlb/columns/rogers_phil/1546310.html)**
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> Lee Elia's tirade 20 years ago might be the defining moment of frustration in Cubs' history.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-the-all-time-best-baseball-tirade-or-are-there-better-ones/364810/4 "2006-07-17T11:37:54Z")

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Wow!

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-the-all-time-best-baseball-tirade-or-are-there-better-ones/364810/5 "2006-07-17T11:54:32Z")

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This reminded me of the Buddy Rich tirades. Not about baseball, of course, but worth a listen. This [site](http://www.cis.rit.edu/~ejipci/buddy_rich.htm) has audio and transcripts. Have fun.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-the-all-time-best-baseball-tirade-or-are-there-better-ones/364810/6 "2006-07-17T12:16:25Z")

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Historical note; the 1983 Cubs finished the season 71-91, 19 games out of first place. Elia was fired in August.

The next year, with Jim Frey managing, they won the division.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-the-all-time-best-baseball-tirade-or-are-there-better-ones/364810/7 "2006-07-17T13:12:15Z")

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Oh, it’s not a fake.

My all-time favorite baseball tirade is the one my husband had in the car on the way home from the Cubs game last night. But I didn’t record it and I couldn’t possibly do it justice to try to recreate it here. 🙂

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-the-all-time-best-baseball-tirade-or-are-there-better-ones/364810/8 "2006-07-17T13:27:04Z")

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Tommy Lasorda’s rant on Dave Kingman is also pretty good.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-really-the-all-time-best-baseball-tirade-or-are-there-better-ones/364810/9 "2006-07-17T13:28:57Z")

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To wit:

“What’s my opinion of Kingman’s performance!? What the fuck do you think is my opinion of it? I think it was FUCKING HORSESHIT. Put that in, I don’t fucking care. Opinion of his performance!!? Jesus Christ, he beat us with three fucking home runs! What the fuck do you mean, ‘What is my opinion of his performance?’ How could you ask me a question like that, ‘What is my opinion of his performance?’ Shit, he hit three home runs! Fuck. I’m fucking pissed off to lose the fucking game. And you ask me my opinion of his performance! Shit. That’s a tough question to ask me, isn’t it? ‘What is my opinion of his performance?’”
