Oops. :smack:
It’s a little overkilled. It’s protesting a little too much and showing a person who is overly defensive about being thought to be gay.
I voted for 2, it’s not homophobic and I wish you had included…
That it’s obnoxious. The words aren’t homophobic but that doesn’t mean the speaker isn’t. This could have been crafted for deniability (hey I was only talking about me) or it could just be an unfiltered expression of their thoughts. Either way your speaker needs more social skills.
Hyperbolic != Homophobic. I would fully expect the inverse to be true for gay people, and wouldn’t be the least bit offended if a gay person stated it right to my face.
The only people I ever hear talking in such terms about homosexuality are anti-gay bigots, so yeah, I’ll go ahead and assume that Hypothetical Speaker here is one of those.
The idea of having sex with most any person I know is so gross it makes me want to puke, so I surely can’t feel superior to someone who can limit these feelings just to ‘other men’.
Now I’m just wondering if Skald is just trying to study us.
The more I review the sentence in question, the more I feel like it’s designed to seem homophobic to those inclined to relate to their hearer, and less so to those inclined to relate to the speaker.
I agree. If the litmus test is “if I say this around somebody who’s gay, would it make them uncomfortable about talking to me?” then it seems to make at least some sense to apply that in reverse. I certainly wouldn’t be offended if a gay person told me the thought of opposite sex made them sick. It seems a little extreme in either case but not offensive.
In fact, in my age group - mid to late 20s - at least some of my gay friends have had opposite sex experiences before accepting their sexuality. I’ve heard things ranging from it just not feeling right to feeling really wrong, and I was never offended.
I’d be surprised if my gay friends were into the idea of straight sex, so I’m not sure why they should be offended that I’m not into gay sex.
I voted “not homophobic” because many people these days use “it makes me want to puke” merely as an expression of dislike. I don’t know why they can’t just say “i dislike it” instead, but those are the words they choose. “Michael Moore movies make we want to puke!” “Ribeye steak with a side a green beans makes me want to puke!” “Someone wearing white before Memorial Day or after Labor Day makes me want to puke!”
Its not at all homophobic to me. I find the idea of having sex with anyone mildly off-putting, but the idea of oral sex with another woman turns my stomach and I’m actually more physically attracted to women than men.
Does that make sense?
I’m just really not a sexual person, so it makes sense to me that someone could feel such a strong negative reaction to sex with someone they wouldn’t be interested in having sex with.
Yeah, mildly homophobic. The sort that arises, I think, more from the environment than from any personal choice or moral calculus. I wouldn’t necessarily think less of the person for feeling that way, provided his reaction is purely relegated to the personal, and doesn’t affect how he interacts with gay people.
I would say “mildly” but quite literally “homophobic” but NOT “anti-gay.” I dated a guy briefly who got into a fist-fight in response to a gay slur directed at his gay friend. He was very much PRO same-sex marriage and supported gay rights quite emphatically, but he confided in me that the concept of gay male sex gave him an acute case of the heebie-jeebies. Conceptually, he just couldn’t go there because it was not for HIM, but a sloppy PDA between to guys that weren’t him was fine.
Not necessarily, no. But I said “mildly” because the wording seems a bit strong for casual conversation from where I’m sitting. Maybe more “leading”, than homophobic per se. In that such a comment might make raise my internal eyebrows and wonder if the person was mildly homophobic.
As a general sentiment, no, not at all.
I voted not at all. By and large, the language it’s couched in does seem to be the type of language used by a homophobe - the “privacy” bit does seem to crop up quite a bit - but, in and of itself, I would have no problem with the speaker, or think them homophobic.
I mean, i’m bi, but by and large there are acts which could be performed by a guy and another guy - or a guy and a girl for that matter - which turn my stomach. You can’t really help what you’re turned off by. If you then translate that feeling into some negative actions or conceptions - “I find the idea gross, so I don’t want people to do it”, or “I find the idea gross, so I consider all those gays who do it bad” - then i’d have a problem. But a simple gut reaction? No.
A friend of mine, who is homosexual, has said almost precisely the same thing about heterosexual sex. In fact, he’s said he nearly *did *puke during one of the few times he attempted heterosexual sex (before he had figured himself out).
Is he heterophobic? No, of course not.
Alright, look. I don’t care what kind of sex you’re having or who you’re having it with. Gay, straight, old, young, anything else out there, I just really don’t care. I am completely uninterested in the sex life of any other human I know. I don’t want to know your business and I don’t want you knowing mine, either. It’s kind of like how, everyone knows their parents must have done it at some point, but they don’t want to think about it and they sure as HELL don’t want to hear about it. There’s nothing filthy or unnatural about how I got here. Just spare me the details is all I ask.
The puking part is limited to the speakers thoughts of his/her own actions and doesn’t level judgement at anyone else. I get urpy at the thought of kissing a slobbery baby but I don’t hate babies. I’m not scared of them either.
I voted not homophobic.
As a straight guy, I really don’t have the right to decide what is homophobic and what is not. It seems more appropriate to leave that to people who don’t enjoy straight privilege and actually, you know, face homophobia in their real lives.
Oh, and for the record, making a glib comparison to a brutally murdered victim of homophbia? Not okay, dude.
Homophobia is two things: fear/hatred of gay people, and fear (or hatred of yourself because) you might be gay. It is not merely saying you do not like homosexual sex, or that the idea of having it is highly distasteful, to the point that it has somatic manifestation.
That said, I think this feeling, which is perfectly natural, leads to homophobia. It’s like how our natural inclination to form groups based on commonalities leads to racism. It’s the natural feeling that is often extended. That extension is the natural part we have to fight, and history has proven we can.
For it to be true, then pretty much every lesbian I’ve ever met would be heterophobic, as the idea of having a penis inside of them makes them sick, even though they enjoy penetration from other objects. Heck, I think that feeling is what lesbians and straight men have in common, and is what defines our orientation.
apologies for the hijack here, but…
Uh, if revulsion of dick is what defines your sexual orientation as a straight man rather than love of women, then sorry bro but you are doing heterosexuality wrong.
Fuck that. If a minority sees prejudice where there is none (like that county official that thought black holes were racist), that doesn’t make him right, it just makes him a moron.