# Is this stewardess aiming a Taser at a passenger?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-stewardess-aiming-a-taser-at-a-passenger/775241>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 20, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-stewardess-aiming-a-taser-at-a-passenger/775241 "2016-12-20T16:37:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-stewardess-aiming-a-taser-at-a-passenger/775241/21 "2016-12-22T15:52:24Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> Huh. It never occurred to me. People actually reported _my_ post (read it that way?)?
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> Wow.
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> Better not call Stranger a space cadet.
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> Maybe it’s one of those things where pilots can use the a-word among themselves, but only them.

If you have a colonoscopy, don’t call the doc a shithead!

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**Author:** ![JHBoom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/13edae/32.png) [@JHBoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JHBoom)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-stewardess-aiming-a-taser-at-a-passenger/775241/22 "2016-12-22T20:09:28Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Pretty much any Korean airline - Asiana is also on my personal no-fly list after two of their pilots more or less admitted they were incompetent to fly an airworthy airplane VFR in perfect weather, after having demonstrated exactly that by crashing their airplane in San Francisco and killing a few of their passengers.

Yep, that was mind-boggling. Lots of discussion amongst the pilots in my Air Force Reserve squadron about that accident.

> [@Melbourne](#):
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> Theres two issues: the staff don’t want any other passengers out of their seats, particularly don’t want a lot of people helping them. and, to make it work, the ropes have to be painfully tight, which is normally inappropriate for 4 hour confinement.
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> But why were they trying to use ropes? They think it’s a good idea to carry a taser, but they don’t carry handcuffs or even cable ties?

It’s the YouTube/Instagram/Twitter/Facebook age - there will always be people up and out of their seats, to get that perfect video for their pages.  
Cabin crews may not \*want \*the help, but this incident (and others) clearly show they \*need \*the help, especially when cultural norms get in the way.  
As part of initial and recurring SERE training, I’ve both been tied up, and tied others up. I’m pretty familiar with what it takes, and “painfully tight” isn’t on the list.  
After a Space-A passenger incident on one of our aircraft (I wasn’t on the crew), I started carrying a package of large cable ties in my flight pubs bag, in order to restrain someone if necessary. I figured it was better than nothing, which was what the Air Force had provided us with…

> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> Umm…significance? I hate to see an SD realization go unappreciated.

I’m old enough to remember both of them in their respective MTV heydays.  
Daisy Fuentes was a mega-hottie BITD (and is still a damn good-looking woman at 50, if the Google image search results can be trusted).  
Richard Marx never struck me as “marry a hot chick” material.  
BL: They’re not a couple I ever would have guessed would happen.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-stewardess-aiming-a-taser-at-a-passenger/775241/23 "2016-12-22T20:43:37Z")

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Wasn’t he married to the blonde chick from _Dirty Dancing_?

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-stewardess-aiming-a-taser-at-a-passenger/775241/24 "2016-12-22T20:45:52Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> Is this as in the military “you, you’re volunteered?”

As in I outranked the people who asked and said yes both times. I won’t say there wasn’t social pressure applied. My second ride was when my assistant Operations Officer volunteered and I got the “You aren’t going to let CPT A do it without setting the example are you sir?”

IIRC correctly that second time was when one of our Supply Sergeants was outprocessing to leave the unit. He went out of his way to coordinate a time to get tasered as part of his outprocessing since he’d never done it. Nobody even asked him. He sought it out. It just didn’t feel right to him to leave our unit without having had the experience. While we had a more formal farewell and award presentation a lot of people came out to say goodbye with a zap. Since the tasers were out and there were other people who hadn’t had shared in the experience yet… :smack:😃

For the people we trained it was strictly voluntary. They were going to at least see the effects after being trained on operation. Usually after one or two of our trainers and one or two members of the training unit led the way. After that the majority of every training unit followed suit.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-stewardess-aiming-a-taser-at-a-passenger/775241/25 "2016-12-22T21:38:17Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> … say goodbye with a zap…

🙂

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-stewardess-aiming-a-taser-at-a-passenger/775241/26 "2016-12-23T04:06:29Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> He was subdued by the singer Richard Marx. He should have known better.

I guess he didn’t see the Hazard

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-stewardess-aiming-a-taser-at-a-passenger/775241/27 "2016-12-24T23:16:43Z")

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I’m a little late on this, and figured I’d look it up, but I can’t be the only one:  
😕 “BITD”?

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-stewardess-aiming-a-taser-at-a-passenger/775241/28 "2016-12-25T03:36:52Z")

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