# Is this the beginning of the end?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 22, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060 "2021-07-22T15:36:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/423 "2021-09-10T20:59:55Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Yobbos were complaining about the immigrants coming in and dominating the school with their fanatical focus on academics. Pretty soon it became apparent that they were talking about the girl who was 1/4 Asian, not the actual immigrant.

That’s absolutely disgusting.

I have to wonder, is it just the parents who are like this, or does the up and coming generation share these views too? It’s one thing if their kids are rolling their eyes and making fun of that kind of racist behavior on Tik Tok, and quite another if they’re nodding along.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/424 "2021-09-10T21:15:07Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Yobbos were complaining about the immigrants coming in and dominating the school with their fanatical focus on academics. Pretty soon it became apparent that they were talking about the girl who was 1/4 Asian, not the actual immigrant.

Wow, that’s insane.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/425 "2021-09-11T02:35:52Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> I have to wonder, is it just the parents who are like this, or does the up and coming generation share these views too?

Seems very gender split. Almost all the BLM protesters at the middle and high schools were female, and the entire “No Place for Hate” group at the high school this year is female.

Meanwhile the boys have form for painting swastikas, using racist taunts in football and basketball and using homophobic slurs like it’s 1977. Being progressive is seen to be a sign of weakness and is going to get you labeled “beta” which is about the worst insult going, apparently.

And this is not some blue collar, working class town. Median household income is over $150k, median home value over $1M and high school ranked in the top 5% in the state.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/426 "2021-09-11T03:05:59Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Seems very gender split. Almost all the BLM protesters at the middle and high schools were female, and the entire “No Place for Hate” group at the high school this year is female.
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> Meanwhile the boys have form for painting swastikas, using racist taunts in football and basketball and using homophobic slurs like it’s 1977. Being progressive is seen to be a sign of weakness and is going to get you labeled “beta” which is about the worst insult going, apparently.

Girls tend to be more mature than boys at those ages. One can hope that’s all it is, and nothing more sinister.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/427 "2021-09-11T17:11:34Z")

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I too hope these boys grow up. Otherwise, I see a lot of frustrated Incels in the future, as few woman will have anything to do with them.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/428 "2021-09-11T17:15:11Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Being progressive is seen to be a sign of weakness and is going to get you labeled “beta” which is about the worst insult going, apparently.

TIL …

> **[Urban Dictionary: Beta](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Beta)**
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> A beta is a male who, instead of being alpha and manning up, completely bitches out. Can apply to many situations, but often refers to scenarios with women.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/429 "2021-09-11T17:17:48Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> TIL …

What does this mean?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/430 "2021-09-11T17:32:35Z")

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Today I Learned …

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/431 "2021-09-12T13:31:29Z")

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So meta. So recursive.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/432 "2021-09-17T19:48:12Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> [Urban Dictionary: Beta](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Beta)

What do you expect from a meta male like @DavidNRockies? 🙂

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/433 "2021-09-17T20:01:36Z")

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> I’ve heard a lot of stories in my time. They went along with the sound of a tinny piano in the parlor downstairs. ‘Mister, I meta male once when I was only a kid,’ they’d always begin.

–Rick Blaine  
“Casablanca”

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