# Is this the beginning of the end?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 22, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060 "2021-07-22T15:36:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/947060/159 "2021-07-27T22:18:16Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Since you mentioned me, I have to point out that none of what you mentioned here is what I consider “beyond the pale”—at least, not in the contexts they were discussed. There are a few bigoted arguments in there, but, in context, they seemed to come from a place of genuine ignorance.

Your gripe is not with bigotry then, it is with bad faith posters. “Disingenuous” posters “who engage in ways that no person actually trying to debate the topic would.”

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For another example I have also [explicitly argued that transgenderism is a disorder](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-board-consider-explicit-transphobia-hate-speech/842204/96). Homosexuality too, in the same thread.

If I had a different mindset I might argue that we should _do something to **fix** the disorder_ - thereby presenting the archetypical harmful message to a transgender/homosexual poster: ‘there’s something wrong with you that needs to be fixed’ (ETA: not my opinion, just to clarify).

If you’re telling me allowing that kind of argument is okay by you, then you’ve done a full 180 from post #46.

~Max

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