# Is this true ?? About the jews and their religion, Grrr -do they look upon non-jews\> **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 24, 2001, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821 "2001-08-24T01:00:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Baltazar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@Baltazar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baltazar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/1 "2001-08-24T01:00:08Z")
Do they look upon non-jews as some kind of usefull animals they can use for their own purpose ?? Are there any truth to what the jewist professor Israel Shahak writes in this book ? I would like to hear some views about this rather **disturbing** “information”. I would like that some jews here and others can explain some of this !! This is only the review: [http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jewhis.htm](http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jewhis.htm) [Entire article deleted. Link to article intact – Alpha] [Edited by Alphagene on 08-23-2001 at 08:41 PM] ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/2 "2001-08-24T01:08:45Z")
Besides the baiting…it’s not “kosher” 😉 to quote an entire published piece without permission…it ain’t exactly “fair use”. Nice Catholic bashing at the [main site](http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/) as well. Stick with Jack Chick, ya chump. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/3 "2001-08-24T01:09:32Z")
What a load of anti-Semitic shit! Given that the Web site linked to also has anti-Catholic rants about a “wafer-god”, I’d say this is just an Antipodean version of Jack Chick. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/4 "2001-08-24T01:11:32Z")
This is a bunch of bullshit but I don’t suppose that you were really looking for answers to your question, were you? Haj ---
**Author:** ![Baltazar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@Baltazar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baltazar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/5 "2001-08-24T01:12:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*What a load of anti-Semitic shit! Given that the Web site linked to also has anti-Catholic rants about a “wafer-god”, I’d say this is just an Antipodean version of Jack Chick. \*\* The problem is that this is written by an jew from Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/6 "2001-08-24T01:13:53Z")
And the OP was written by a stupid tool. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/7 "2001-08-24T01:14:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baltazar \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > > \*\*What a load of anti-Semitic shit! Given that the Web site linked to also has anti-Catholic rants about a “wafer-god”, I’d say this is just an Antipodean version of Jack Chick. \*\* > > The problem is that this is written by an jew from Israel. \*\* It was written by someone who _claims_ to be a Jew from Israel you ignorant turd. Haj ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/8 "2001-08-24T01:15:33Z")
> [@](#): > > The problem is that this is written by an jew from Israel Yean, and so were the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. :rolleyes: Moron. And Jew should be capitalized because it’s a proper adjective. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/9 "2001-08-24T01:15:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Is this true ?? About the jews and their religion, Grrr -do they look upon non-jews\> No. ::gets out lawn-chair and prepares for the roast:: ---
**Author:** ![Baltazar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@Baltazar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baltazar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/10 "2001-08-24T01:18:08Z")
> [@](#): > > It was written by someone who _claims_ to be a Jew from Israel you ignorant turd. > Haj \*\* [Don’t think so](http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,3604,517411,00.html) [Fixed link – Alpha] [Edited by Alphagene on 08-23-2001 at 08:43 PM] ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/11 "2001-08-24T01:21:27Z")
Well, that link didn’t work. Where does (or did) this Shahak fellow teach? Is there any evidence that this is anything but the invention of some Jew-baiting asswipe, like the OP? ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/12 "2001-08-24T01:30:23Z")
“Israel Shahak, who has died aged 68 from complications caused by diabetes, was for 25 years a highly popular professor of organic chemistry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.” There you go, **gobear**. ---
**Author:** ![Baltazar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@Baltazar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baltazar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/13 "2001-08-24T01:32:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Well, that link didn’t work. Where does (or did) this Shahak fellow teach? Is there any evidence that this is anything but the invention of some Jew-baiting asswipe, like the OP? \*\* Let’s try again. (try to copy the links that doesn’t work) Here are some links I came over: [http://www.miftah.org/articles/sharma.htm](http://www.miftah.org/articles/sharma.htm) and [another](http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,3604,517411,00.html) [Fixed link again – Alpha] [Edited by Alphagene on 08-23-2001 at 08:45 PM] ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/14 "2001-08-24T01:33:34Z")
In that case, it’s a shame to smear the memory of a dead man by associating him with this gutter trash pamphlet. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/15 "2001-08-24T01:33:59Z")
Israel Shahak was a Chemistry professor in Israel. He decided that the Palestinians were being oppressed and blamed Judaism for it, and became convinced that Israel was a theocratic state and that Judaism was inherently hostile to non-Jews, so he started writing books about that. Shahak wasn’t religious, didn’t come from a religious family, and never studied religion. To write his book “Jewish History, Jewish Religion : The Weight of Three Thousand Years”, he selectively quoted, took passages in the Torah, Talmud, and commentaries out of context, mistranslated words, etc. Nobody who knows anything about Judaism would support his book, and it was pretty universally criticized by religious leaders, theologians, and all other sources of scholarly opinion you could think of. Shahak died in July. ---
**Author:** ![Alphagene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Alphagene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alphagene)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/16 "2001-08-24T01:40:17Z")
I personally like link from the home page entitled “Boy Raised from The Dead in Finland”. How could they tell? :rimshot: I’m gonna fix your links, snip the OP quote and provide just the link to the article. As beag said, quoting an entire article isn’t a good idea. Copyright stuff. Makes Reader potantially liable. blah blah. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/17 "2001-08-24T01:43:04Z")
[Here](http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,3604,517411,00.html) you go: Yes, he was real. Bergen Belsen Class of '45. Apparently an atheist. And an “old fashioned liberal.” Yes, one can be a liberal and find the actions of the Israeli government repugnant. Yes, one can be a liberal and quote documents selectively. It looks like one can even be a liberal and get quoted extensively by conservative Christians. [Fixed link yet again. I hate you all. – Alpha] [Edited by Alphagene on 08-23-2001 at 08:47 PM] ---
**Author:** ![Baltazar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/51bf81/32.png) [@Baltazar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baltazar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/18 "2001-08-24T01:45:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Captain Amazing \* > To write his book “Jewish History, Jewish Religion : The Weight of Three Thousand Years”, he selectively quoted, took passages in the Torah, Talmud, and commentaries out of context, mistranslated words, etc. Nobody who knows anything about Judaism would support his book, and it was pretty universally criticized by religious leaders, theologians, and all other sources of scholarly opinion you could think of. Shahak died in July. I don’t think that what Shahak wrote was too far from the truth really. I think his descriptin fits very well on a lot of zionists and orthodox jews. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/19 "2001-08-24T01:50:06Z")
Yep, you’re a fuckin’ anti-Semitic assmunch! ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2001, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821/20 "2001-08-24T01:59:43Z")
Well, on the one hand we have: “religious leaders, theologians, and all other sources of scholarly opinion you could think of.” criticizing a work. We have Baltazar commending it. I leave it to the reader to find the more meritorious side:rolleyes: [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-true-about-the-jews-and-their-religion-grrr-do-they-look-upon-non-jews/77821.md?page=2)