# IS this what u want ??? be honest .... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 23, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621 "2003-04-23T16:35:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/41 "2003-04-24T22:38:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Inssanah \* > \*\*IS this what u want ??? be honest … \*\* Know. What eye want is a long-overdue **CAPTION THAT WACKY PICTURE CONTEST!** I get to go first! \*\* > [@](#): > > 1 > JENEVE’S AGREEMENT… WITH RIGHTS > > [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_115\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_115_1.jpg) \*\* “Y’know, Frank? When they said “hazing”, I thought more along the lines of something involving paddles and beer.” > [@](#): > > \*\* > 2 > > They are walking rising thier hands with fears from American\ British soldiers … > > [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_206\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_206_1.jpg) \*\* This village has it’s own unique take on “Field day” > [@](#): > > \*\* > 3 > They were killed while they are sleeping… > > [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_312\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_312_1.jpg) \*\* Motel 6’s new advertising campaign isn’t as popular as they hoped.\* > [@](#): > > \*\* > 5 > FEAR , FRUSTRATION & FALLING APART … > > [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_314\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_314_1.jpg) \*\* “Whaddaya mean that yellow isn’t my color, you bastard?!” \*\* > [@](#): > > 8 > > FEAR & FALLING APART… > > [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_319\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_319_1.jpg) > > \*\* “I _told_ you not to lick the flagpole when it’s this cold outside.” Your turn! Fenris \*I’m not convinced those are dead bodies. The photo looks staged. No, I cnn’t say why…it just looks faked to me. If I thought they were real, I might have skipped this one. ---
**Author:** ![Osip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4491bb/32.png) [@Osip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Osip)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/42 "2003-04-24T22:48:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Inssanah \* > \*\*NO > … INSANNAH MEANT HUMANBEING … \*\* Believe it or now I actually knew this. A beautiful young lady whom I was great friends with has this same name. \*\* > [@](#): > > IS THIS THE BEST THAT U CAN DO ??? > LAUAGHING AT MY WORDS …??? > \*\* I have yet to laugh at your words. I find the images you display lacking content and a formative description. Who did the shooting, who are the people, what area of Iraq is this. \*\* > [@](#): > > I KNOW WHY … BECUASE U HAVE NOTHING TO SAY … > \*\* I have have lots to say I can be quite charming and quick witted and could talk your ears off provided you let me. \*\* > [@](#): > > IM PROUD TO BE MUSLEM GIRLE SPEAKING ARABIC LANGUGE & NOT ENGLISH …\*\* It is good to be proud of your regional heritage… why your proud to **type** in english you do not speak english baffles me. \*\* > [@](#): > > DO U KNOW WHY …??? TELL ME … > \*\* Know what? tell you what? why I am for some strange reason strongly attracted to you? \*\* > [@](#): > > WE ARE AGAINST SADDAM EVEN BUSH & WHAT DID THEY DO BEFORE ??? > > BUT SADDAM NOW… IS NOT WORKING ANY MORE…HIS AGREEMEN IS END… > BY BUSH HIMSELFE …\*\* I am sorry you have lost me completely here. Must be lost somewhere in the translation. \*\* > [@](#): > > I JUST WANT TO INVITE U TO READ ABOUT ISLAM FIRST , THEN COME TO TELL ME ABOUT URE OPINION … > OK… DON’T ASK ME… ASK ANY AMERICAN MUSLEM …\*\* I actually have done this… what is your point? my opinion of what exactly?\*\* > [@](#): > > MAY ALLAH GUIDE U TO THE RIGHT ROAD … > > \*\* May Allah guide you toward tolerance and peace ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/43 "2003-04-24T22:53:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > **No, I cnn’t say why…it just looks faked to me.** 😃 Good one. [sub]I’m assuming that wasn’t a typo…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/44 "2003-04-24T23:01:25Z")
These are the most cold-blooded responses that I have read at SDMB. Inssanah, there are many, many Americans who did not want the war and still others who felt there should be a war to free the people of Iraq from Saddam. It was hard to know what was right. Your English was good enough to get your point across! And I think you know a lot more English than we know Arabic. I hope that you find the peace and freedom that you seek. I wish you lots of food and clean water, the love of your family around you and things that will make you laugh again. I love your heart. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/45 "2003-04-24T23:23:33Z")
> [@](#): > > These are the most cold-blooded responses that I have read at SDMB. Good. I’ll take cold, hard facts over mindless knee-jerking emotional responses any day. We’re here to fight Ignorance, not play Nicey-Nice Mushy Love. ---
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/46 "2003-04-25T00:09:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zoe \* > I love your heart. Aaaack! Like, gag me with a spoon already! Look **Zoe** hun, I ain’t gonna quibble with your politics because that’s not the point. For all we know Inssanah could be some 14 year old boy who gets his kicks out of making us squirm. I gotta say that I agree with **SPOOFE**. It’s not our job to hold people’s hands and make them feel all mushy-mushy nice about it. If Inssanah wants to engage in a rational debate on the issue, fine. I don’t see why we can’t accommodate that. All s/he’s gotta do is say, “Hey, look, I don’t speak English well but I wanna talk about this.” Also, I think it’s extremely precipitous of you to read into what little Inssanah has offered and make some sort of blanket statement of what his/her intent was. Call me cold hearted, call me cynical, whatever. I applaud your well-wishes for Inssanah, but I don’t think that his/her attempt was meant in the spirit of peace and friendship. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/47 "2003-04-25T00:15:27Z")
Actually, Insannah; I’m kind of insulted that you seem to think I haven’t read any about Islam. Get off your duff and do a search of this site and you’ll see that I just might know a bit more about it than you seem to. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/48 "2003-04-25T00:22:08Z")
Someone tell me what the _fuck_ is going on. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/49 "2003-04-25T00:27:50Z")
We got someone spewing glurge and linking to a bunch of anonymous pictures. And there’s a “caption the pictures” contest, of which I am, so far, the clear winner (being the only one who’s entered (except for the OP, but he/she isn’t even in the running) Did that help? ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/50 "2003-04-25T00:32:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > Someone tell me what the _fuck_ is going on. _Bzzzz._ **Alex:** Knead? **Knead:** What is the refrain from the new rap version of an old Marvin Gaye song? **Alex:** Correct! ---
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/51 "2003-04-25T00:38:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > We got someone spewing glurge and linking to a bunch of anonymous pictures. And there’s a “caption the pictures” contest, of which I am, so far, the clear winner (being the only one who’s entered (except for the OP, but he/she isn’t even in the running) Heeeeey! No fair! I was first! Scroll up and you’ll see! ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/52 "2003-04-25T01:03:20Z")
I don’t belive you. Clearly you have access to a time-machine and the “edit” function. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/53 "2003-04-25T01:06:55Z")
Well, I was going to rip into your English skills, but that was before it was pointed out that it’s not your first language. As bad as it is, your English is immeasurably better than my Arabic, so who am I to judge? However, if you’d turn off Caps Lock on your keyboard, we’d all really appreciate it. That said, I have to ask what you expected to prove with your post. Believe it or not, all of us who supported going to war with Iraq were fully aware that there would be a high cost in human lives. It’s just that a lot of us thought there would be a higher cost if we _didn’t_ do anything. And speaking just for myself, I was pretty sure that higher cost would be paid primarily by Arabs, not Americans. Yeah, I know, “we bombed you for your own good” sounds terribley patronizing. But, goddamit, we’ve shown more care and concern for the lives of Iraqis in the last few months than Saddam Hussein showed in his entire life. I doubt there’s any way to get accurate numbers on this sort of thing, but I’d like to see a comparison of how many Iraqi civilians died at Allied hands, and how many Iraqi civilians lost their lives at the hands of their own government in a comparable time-span. I suspect more lost their lives to Americans, but not by much. And as of now, we’re done bombing Iraq: Saddam Hussein wasn’t going to stop killing Iraqis so long as he was alive and in power. Anyway, welcome to the boards, even if I suspect you aren’t going to stick around for long. We already have a number of practicing Muslims on the boards, but we could always use a few more. Diversity is a wonderful thing. ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/54 "2003-04-25T02:03:09Z")
OK, color me skeptical, but somehow, Insallah’s posts do not strike me as English-as-second-language, but Juvenile-pretending-to-be-foreign. The ‘U’ and ‘regards’ sound too colloquial. And someone who has mastered the ‘wh’ and ‘gh’ spellings in English then makes ‘-ign’ transposition errors? The misspellings all seemed forced and the ALL CAPS is itself a yellow flag. buh bye ---
**Author:** ![merge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9f8e36/32.png) [@merge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/merge)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/55 "2003-04-25T12:25:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Inssanah \* > \*\*NO > … INSANNAH MEANT HUMANBEING … \*\* as Strongbad would say… _Number A, you don’t have to shout. Do you know how many Internet etiquette laws you are breaking by typing in all caps like that?..well…1… you are breaking 1… don’t type in all caps… anyway…_ ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/56 "2003-04-25T12:39:00Z")
I think this is a repeat of a previous locked thread by the same poster. Clean up on Aisle 3, please. ---
**Author:** ![Melandry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Melandry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melandry)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/57 "2003-04-25T13:24:21Z")
No, this is the original that caused the other thread to get locked, assuming you’re talking about [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179539). ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/58 "2003-04-25T14:32:04Z")
I’ll second moriah. I may be wrong, but the second language thing seems too forced. ---
**Author:** ![Inssanah](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inssanah/32/7268_2.png) [@Inssanah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inssanah)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/59 "2003-04-25T17:29:21Z")
COME TO NEXT … WE ARE AGAINST SADDAM EVEN BUSH & WHAT DID THEY DO BEFORE ??? BUT SADDAM NOW… IS NOT WORKING ANY MORE…HIS AGREEMEN IS END… BY BUSH HIMSELFE … I JUST WANT TO INVITE U TO READ ABOUT ISLAM FIRST , THEN COME TO TELL ME ABOUT URE OPINION … OK… DON’T ASK ME… ASK ANY AMERICAN MUSLEM … # MAY ALLAH GUIDE U TO THE RIGHT ROAD … WE ARE AGAINST WAR, DESTROYING & KILLINGN IN ANY PLACE … EVEN AT AMERICA ITSELFE … regards, Inssanah ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/60 "2003-04-25T17:40:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Inssanah \* > **WE ARE AGAINST WAR, DESTROYING & KILLINGN IN ANY PLACE … EVEN AT AMERICA ITSELFE …** Might I assume that you are one who doesn’t believe that Muslims had nothing to do with flying jumbo jets into the World Trade Center and The Pentagon on 11 September 2001? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621.md?page=4)