# IS this what u want ??? be honest ....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 23, 2003, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621 "2003-04-23T16:35:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/61 "2003-04-25T17:43:48Z")

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Err…make that “doesn’t believe Muslims had anything”…

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/62 "2003-04-25T17:49:49Z")

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Hey, you know, this person is from Saudi Arabia-so can I start saying that she supports Wahabism and the Saud family?

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**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/63 "2003-04-25T17:51:07Z")

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Oh please. Since when are all Muslims united? Unless I’m mistaken she never said Muslims have never done anything wrong or that she is the mouthpiece for every Muslim in the world. So she said “we,” so what.

As for her being fake, I don’t see why the language thing is forced. I know a lot of people with mediocre English who do things like substitute “u” for “you” for whatever reason. Unless you’re an expert on Arabic-speakers learning English as a second language and the mistakes they would make I don’t see how you would know either way.

That said, I do think the initial post is pretty pointless.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/64 "2003-04-25T17:59:46Z")

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One trick pony strikes again:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=179795](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=179795)

Hmm, seeing a pattern yet? :dubious:

Is the 16 line Sig a record?

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**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/65 "2003-04-25T18:01:53Z")

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Is it just me, or is Inssanah’s most recent response an exact copy of his/her third response on the first page of this thread?

Looks like s/he’s just c&p’ing to me. Do I smell spam?

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**Author:** ![Inssanah](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inssanah/32/7268_2.png) [@Inssanah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inssanah)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/66 "2003-04-25T18:21:36Z")

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Do u mind ??!!!

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WE ARE AGAINST SADDAM EVEN BUSH & WHAT DID THEY DO BEFORE ???

BUT SADDAM NOW… IS NOT WORKING ANY MORE…HIS AGREEMEN IS END…  
BY BUSH HIMSELFE …  
I JUST WANT TO INVITE U TO READ ABOUT ISLAM FIRST , THEN COME TO TELL ME ABOUT URE OPINION …  
OK… DON’T ASK ME… ASK ANY AMERICAN MUSLEM …

# MAY ALLAH GUIDE U TO THE RIGHT ROAD …

WE ARE AGAINST WAR, DESTROYING & KILLINGN IN ANY PLACE … EVEN AT AMERICA ITSELFE …

regards,  
Inssanah

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**Author:** ![Lilacs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Lilacs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lilacs)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/67 "2003-04-25T18:26:03Z")

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I initially read the OP yesterday, and (as usual) decided not to post to it. However, I started to think about it and got a bit irritated. So here I go.

I understand that if you are not in the US that you may not know about the divided sentiment regarding the war (as others have said), but to just go onto a site and post something which comes off as extremely accusatory just isn’t too intellegent.

So in answer to your OP, **Inssanah** , what has been happening in the Middle East (including this war) is not what I would have wanted.

I wanted a reasonable, common sense solution that both sides could agree on. That said, I know that reason is/was not a word in Saddam Hussein’s vocabulary.

What I really want (for the middle east in general) are decisions based on logic, and what’s actually best for the individuals involved, not decisions based mainly on religious fanaticism and retaliation.

I just don’t see it ever happening.

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**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/68 "2003-04-25T18:30:13Z")

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By the way, I’m not sure if I just pulled this “she” thing out of nowhere or not… I studied Japanese and Spanish in high school, so I tend to think of names ending with “a” sounds as feminine…

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/69 "2003-04-25T18:30:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> WE ARE AGAINST SADDAM EVEN BUSH & WHAT DID THEY DO BEFORE ???
> 
> BUT SADDAM NOW… IS NOT WORKING ANY MORE…HIS AGREEMEN IS END…  
> BY BUSH HIMSELFE …
> 
> I JUST WANT TO INVITE U TO READ ABOUT ISLAM FIRST , THEN COME TO TELL ME ABOUT URE OPINION …  
> OK… DON’T ASK ME… ASK ANY AMERICAN MUSLEM …
> 
> MAY ALLAH GUIDE U TO THE RIGHT ROAD …

> [@](#):
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> WE ARE AGAINST SADDAM EVEN BUSH & WHAT DID THEY DO BEFORE ???
> 
> BUT SADDAM NOW… IS NOT WORKING ANY MORE…HIS AGREEMEN IS END…  
> BY BUSH HIMSELFE …  
> I JUST WANT TO INVITE U TO READ ABOUT ISLAM FIRST , THEN COME TO TELL ME ABOUT URE OPINION …  
> OK… DON’T ASK ME… ASK ANY AMERICAN MUSLEM …
> 
> MAY ALLAH GUIDE U TO THE RIGHT ROAD …

> [@](#):
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> WE ARE AGAINST SADDAM EVEN BUSH & WHAT DID THEY DO BEFORE ???
> 
> BUT SADDAM NOW… IS NOT WORKING ANY MORE…HIS AGREEMEN IS END…  
> BY BUSH HIMSELFE …  
> I JUST WANT TO INVITE U TO READ ABOUT ISLAM FIRST , THEN COME TO TELL ME ABOUT URE OPINION …  
> OK… DON’T ASK ME… ASK ANY AMERICAN MUSLEM …
> 
> MAY ALLAH GUIDE U TO THE RIGHT ROAD …

Just as I suspected, definitely SPAM.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/70 "2003-04-25T18:31:26Z")

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Well, **I** was kinda hoping for _more_ slaughter and decapitations and eyeballs burned out and rape and pillage and torture and terror.

But then the Americans came in and put an end to Saddam’s regime. What a bunch of spoilsports.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/71 "2003-04-25T18:54:31Z")

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Eh, **Fenris** , I’ll give it a shot.

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> JENEVE’S AGREEMENT… WITH RIGHTS  
> [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_115\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_115_1.jpg)

"And last, write 100 times “I won’t take the candy bars from my fellow soldiers’ foot locker.”

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> They are walking rising thier hands with fears from American\ British soldiers …  
> [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_206\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_206_1.jpg)

People Unclear on the Concept – Arms Race

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> SMELLS OF DEATH HARVESTED INOCENSE  
> [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_313\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_313_1.jpg)

“And when you wake up, you’ll be at your new home, the third planet of Alpha Centauri.”

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> FEAR , FRUSTRATION & FALLING APART …  
> [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_314\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_314_1.jpg)

“Arrrggh! I can’t **believe** Jordan missed the open layup for the game.”

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> ONE HAND … DREAM OF VICTORY …  
> [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_317\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_317_1.jpg)

“Damn hippies did this to me.”

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> FEAR & FALLING APART…  
> [http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880\_319\_1.jpg](http://www.alyaum.com/imagesIssues/10880_319_1.jpg)

“Wait. Before you ask that chick out, you’ve got something caught in your teeth.”

What do I win?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/72 "2003-04-25T19:07:36Z")

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Umm, **Inssanah** , dear, have you read or addressed any of the questions (such as mine) put to you in this thread? Or are you just here to mindlessly rant and not listen to or interact with anyone else?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/73 "2003-04-25T19:12:12Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Inssanah \*  
\*\*Do u mind ??!!! \*\*

[quote]

No, not at all.

And **Inssanah** , you’re kind of developing a pattern of being sort of a one-tracked poster. Maybe you should branch out a little, you know post in a few other threads. See what other topics are being discussed here. Lay off the whole “All of you are in a state of jahilia” thing. We’re _all_ about fighting jahilia here, but not by preaching and pounding unsolicited info down others’ throats.

Just take it easy. And just think about how you’re coming across here. I wouldn’t dream of going on a Middle East-based message board and spouting how evil Islam is and how bad all Arabic leadership is.

Ask a few questions. Get to know this place a little bit. We’re a diverse group, and I’m sure we can learn from you as much as you can learn from us.

Happy

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/74 "2003-04-25T19:17:22Z")

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Also, while I don’t necessarily agree with the OPs use of the pictures to basically Glurge/Spam (Spurge?) us into guilt or repentance or something, I’m kind of disappointed in our quickness to have a fun, silly caption contest. I know I know, lighten up, if you didn’t laugh you’d cry and all that…  
But by basically ‘laughing’ at the evidence the OP provided we’re proving her point. It seems sort of cold and crass to laugh and make jokes about bleeding and dead bodies.

Or maybe I’m just having a bad day.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/75 "2003-04-25T19:21:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by elf6c \*  
> \*\*Is the 16 line Sig a record? \*\*

That is _not_ a sig.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/76 "2003-04-25T19:23:00Z")

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[Firesign]  
WE CAN SHOUT, DON’T HEAR YOU.  
[/Firesign]

Seriously, if you can use both upper and lower case in “regards, Inssanah”, then you can use them everywhere.

And if your English is as weak as it appears to be, this may not be the best board for you. Because we probably can’t even explain to you that it’s your lack of reasoned argument, not your views or your poor English, that’s the real deal-breaker here.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/77 "2003-04-25T19:25:06Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Inssanah \*  
\*\*Do u mind ??!!!  
Mind what, sweetie? Please elaborate but leave off the spam. While you’re at it, how about anwering a few questions? “How do you feel about 9/11?” comes to mind.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/78 "2003-04-25T19:26:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*
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> Or maybe I’m just having a bad day. \*\*

I think that may be it- the OP seems to be just spamming us over and over again. The 16 line signature was a hint. As were the glurgy OP’s and empty responses.

There are more then enough serious discussions and even serious rants regarding this topic- this isn’t one of them IMHO.

On the bright side, the weekend is almost here. And the Bears made a great trade today- there number 4, for the Jets 13 and 22. Woo Hoo! Boller in a Bear’s uniform, yeeeeeeaaaaah!

😃

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/79 "2003-04-25T19:28:22Z")

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So that is her sig and not SPAM?!?!?! :eek:

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-this-what-u-want-be-honest/170621/80 "2003-04-25T19:44:21Z")

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Well it is used at the end of every re-glurging in both threads, although the line is missing. But given its use at the end of every single post, what is the difference?

Uses own lame sig to check. . .

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