# Is Tiger Woods 19 times as patriotic as Newt? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 11, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247 "2011-03-11T01:49:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247/41 "2011-03-12T04:26:58Z")
Of course, we probably also don’t know about all of Woods’ affairs, so the ratio might also be greater than 19. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247/42 "2011-03-12T04:45:15Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > A politician’s sex life has no impact on his fitness to be President. > > Wait - is Woods a Democrat, or a Republican? It apparently makes a difference. > > Regards, > Shodan Forwarded for your response: Dear Shodan: When was that rule put into place? Did Ken Starr and his supporters know about it? Sincerely, Wm. J. Clinton" 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247/43 "2011-03-12T05:42:30Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > He has not officially announced that he’s running, but he’s made all indications that he will, and has named a date and place where he may or may not announce. It would seem that he is trying to float some trial balloons to see if he can get people to forget his past. So far, people seem to be pointing and laughing, which surely isn’t the reaction he hoped for. ---
**Author:** ![brocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@brocks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brocks)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247/44 "2011-03-12T10:17:48Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > He filed the paper work to run. That’s what he wants you to think, but it’s all a scam. When you run for President, you incur a bunch of financial restrictions. Newt announced that he was creating an exploratory website, which means nothing at all, but was designed to sound like he declaring his candidacy. Some liberal commentator, I forget who, has the very plausible theory that Newt is just doing this to make money. For the last several years, he has been trading on his name, such as it is, sending unsolicited letters to people telling them that they have been awarded some honor by his foundation, and all they have to do to get the official-looking certificate is send him $5000. There was some brief embarrassment when one of the Small Business Awards when to a strip club. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247/45 "2011-03-12T19:30:01Z")
> [@brocks](#): > > There was some brief embarrassment when one of the Small Business Awards went to a strip club. That’s a good use of the passive voice. Rather than claim that _Newt_ was embarrassed – an fact, and indeed a possibility, not in evidence – just say that somebody somewhere was embarrassed. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247/46 "2011-03-13T02:28:39Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > If you are taking a vote, I’d say no…there is no debate here. Either MPSIMS or the Pit, though the thread will probably peter out before more than a page or two, unless a couple of 'dopers decide to play ‘Oh yeah? But what about what YOUR side did??’ for 15 or 20 pages while the rest try and be clever. 😛 > > Do you have a cite? I haven’t heard that he’s officially running. > > -XT [http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/newt-gingrich-creates-presidential-exploratory-committee/](http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/newt-gingrich-creates-presidential-exploratory-committee/) He took the first step.Why did he , if he is not intending to run. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247/47 "2011-03-13T05:37:09Z")
So, no…you don’t have a cite that he’s officially announced that he’s running. That’s fine…just checking as I hadn’t heard anything official and would be/will be surprised if he officially announces his candidacy. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247/48 "2011-03-13T06:25:22Z")
He’s engaging in all the preliminary work which would be expected preemotory to a run. The fact that he’s left Fox News is a big indication as well, and he’s named a time and place where he will announce “if he announces.” It will be far more surprising if he does not run than if it does. You might think he should know better than to think he’s a viable candidate (and he would not be in a General Election), but he’s got a huge enough ego to delude himself into thinking he will win. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247/49 "2011-03-13T06:33:24Z")
Sure, he might decide to do it based on whatever exploratory committees or whatever he’s formed and whatever the polls and trial balloons say. Or, he might not…until he officially announces he isn’t committed and can always back out and just say he’s opening up a chain of fried chicken restaurants… -XT ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247/50 "2011-03-13T07:33:39Z")
He will back out when he finds out he can not win. But he is determined to run and become president . But he will find out that he does not have the backing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tiger-woods-19-times-as-patriotic-as-newt/574247.md?page=2)