# Is Tim Tebow a hypocrite? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 29, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717 "2011-12-29T13:43:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/81 "2012-01-03T00:26:32Z")
Yes, although making sure Jobu has his cigars and rum is not exactly a mundane reason. (_Major League_ reference) ---
**Author:** ![Untoward\_Parable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Untoward\_Parable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Untoward_Parable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/82 "2012-01-03T00:45:58Z")
mostly just a spazzy idiot, probably a repressed homo as well ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/83 "2012-01-03T00:47:53Z")
> [@Untoward\_Parable](#): > > mostly just a spazzy idiot, probably a repressed homo as well Nice talk. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/84 "2012-01-03T00:49:56Z")
> [@Untoward\_Parable](#): > > mostly just a spazzy idiot, probably a repressed homo as well I don’t understand this need to belittle Tim Tebow. Do you envy him that much? ---
**Author:** ![Untoward\_Parable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Untoward\_Parable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Untoward_Parable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/85 "2012-01-03T03:48:47Z")
nope, that is my honest opinion. Sorry if you don’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/86 "2012-01-03T04:03:32Z")
Oh, well it’s honest, so you don’t have to be held accountable then. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/87 "2012-01-03T04:09:38Z")
> [@Untoward\_Parable](#): > > nope, that is my honest opinion. Sorry if you don’t like it. Some people find terms like “homo” offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Untoward\_Parable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Untoward\_Parable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Untoward_Parable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/88 "2012-01-03T05:39:54Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Oh, well it’s honest, so you don’t have to be held accountable then. I need to be held accountable for thinking someone is ridiculous? Ya maybe we should have an inquiry into Teebow not being liked by this guy in a forum, hate crime probably lol. Next guy: what did you want me to say a secret gay?(sounds ridiculous), Or spell out homosexual instead of abbreviating it? I think when were talking about self hating gay men “homo” is just fine, way to nitpick lol. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/89 "2012-01-03T07:38:57Z")
I’ll say that I’m glad TT said something along the lines of god doesn’t care about football and kept it about HIS faith, not preachy to anybody. What is hypocritical to me is anyone involved in missionary work in third world countries who holds the food hostage before passing out the bibles. And there are many other extremely faithful members in the NFL. Phil Rivers has, what, 8 kids same wife?? I never hear Rivers or Tebow telling me I have to be faithful. But ending every interview with a “god bless” really irks me. We are watching you play football. Your faith is your own and not mine. One question: if the Steelers break Tebow’s back this week, would he thank Jesus for the test?? ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/90 "2012-01-03T09:15:27Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I’ll say that I’m glad TT said something along the lines of god doesn’t care about football and kept it about HIS faith, not preachy to anybody. He’s been a missionary. He did a commercial airing during the Super Bowl (you know, the most visible platform in the history of the world) denouncing abortion, for Focus on the Family, an anti-gay hate group. He is, by definition, preaching to everybody. He can’t go out there and try to make other people change their religion, make them change their beliefs, and ally with an organization that wants to make people change their core sexual and romantic identities by force of law, and then claim it’s his private business and we have no right to judge him. This is the very definition of a double standard or, to put it in other words, hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/91 "2012-01-03T10:40:00Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > He’s been a missionary. He did a commercial airing during the Super Bowl (you know, the most visible platform in the history of the world) denouncing abortion, for Focus on the Family, an anti-gay hate group. He is, by definition, preaching to everybody. He can’t go out there and try to make other people change their religion, make them change their beliefs, and ally with an organization that wants to make people change their core sexual and romantic identities by force of law, and then claim it’s his private business and we have no right to judge him. This is the very definition of a double standard or, to put it in other words, hypocrisy. Ooop, I forgot about that commercial. Yes, it aired during Super Bowl (which should’ve been banned) but I don’t hear it on the field from him though. Still, using his fame to get a little special permission on SB air time for personal opinions is hypocritical. I agree he (all xtians) are hypocrites, and any xtian-based charity I’m suspicious of. As a person/christian, he’s a hypocrite. As a NFLer, make him a tight end or a fullback. He’s not a quarterback. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/92 "2012-01-03T13:01:54Z")
Tebow’s prayer could be a prayer of Thanks, and it is his right,but to me prayer is a lack of trust, to me a Supreme being who knows all things even before they happen, and is a good father, wouldn’t need his child to beg for things, if they are good for the child a good father wouldn’t hold anything back, if bad, he wouldn’t give it to the child no matter how they begged, and could read the heart of a child and know if the child is grateful. If however the gesture was made for public display(like the Pharisees) then it would be an insult to the father. I guess we just should not judge, and if it is an empty gesture one can just ignore it, who cares what Tebow believes or does. If he plays his best and so does his team then they won,in spite of any prayer! One could pray to a carrot and if the thing prayed for was given then they can Thank the carrot, if not they can say,'Carrot said no! ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/93 "2012-01-03T13:05:53Z")
> [@NotreDame05](#): > > I am not seeing the contradiction, especially since it is not conspicuous and rather presumed to exist by yourself. > > The relevant verses read as follows. _"Disciples and the World > 13"You are the salt of the earth ; but if the salt has become tasteless, how \* can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men.14"You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot \* be hidden ;15nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.16"Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven_." > > _1"Beware of_\* practicing your righteousness before men to be noticedby them\*\*; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.2"So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, **so that they may be honored by men**. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.3"But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,4so that your giving will be in secret ; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.5"When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites ; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.6"But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.7\* > > Now, Jesus is discussing two types of people or individuals. In the preceding paragraph of verses, Jesus is discussing those good works done in public and performed to glorify God in heaven. This type of person does not perform the good works to bring glory to themselves amongst men, essentially to boast and demonstrate to men the good works they are performing. They do not publicly announce the righteous act they are about to perform or have performed, or engage in the righteous act in public for the purpose of being “honored by men.” > > What is lacking from the preceding verses but present in the subsequent paragraph of verses is announcement to the public of a good deed to be performed and then subsequently performing it. A defining characteristic of the verses in the latter paragraph is the element of the righteous act to be seen by men, by publicly announcing it or doing the act in public, for the express purpose of being “honored by men.” > > The contradiction is myth. Notice that Jesus is quoted as saying let people know by good works not public display of one’s own holiness! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/94 "2012-01-03T14:24:15Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > He’s been a missionary. He did a commercial airing during the Super Bowl (you know, the most visible platform in the history of the world) denouncing abortion, for Focus on the Family, an anti-gay hate group. He is, by definition, preaching to everybody. He can’t go out there and try to make other people change their religion, make them change their beliefs, and ally with an organization that wants to make people change their core sexual and romantic identities by force of law, and then claim it’s his private business and we have no right to judge him. This is the very definition of a double standard or, to put it in other words, hypocrisy. Can you quote where he said people have no right to judge him? ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/95 "2012-01-03T14:29:00Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I’ll say that I’m glad TT said something along the lines of god doesn’t care about football and kept it about HIS faith, not preachy to anybody. > > What is hypocritical to me is anyone involved in missionary work in third world countries who holds the food hostage before passing out the bibles. > > And there are many other extremely faithful members in the NFL. Phil Rivers has, what, 8 kids same wife?? I never hear Rivers or Tebow telling me I have to be faithful. But ending every interview with a “god bless” really irks me. We are watching you play football. Your faith is your own and not mine. > > One question: if the Steelers break Tebow’s back this week, would he thank Jesus for the test?? Maybe not, but if Tebow is legit he’d accept it as God’s will. Things like that happen to true believers all the time. ---
**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/96 "2012-01-03T17:47:18Z")
> [@Untoward\_Parable](#): > > mostly just a spazzy idiot, probably a repressed homo as well resisting temptation to match with equally childish “takes one to know one”. failed resisting. Not the “homo” that annoys, its the fact that being homosexual (even repressed) is still used as a slam in 2012. Taking longer than you thought SDMB, taking longer than you thought. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/97 "2012-01-03T18:32:45Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > I am curious how many Tebow fans would perk up if Tebow was Muslim and instead of “Tebowing”, he uttered “Allahu Akbar” after every TD. How much of his support is due to him being devout and how much of it is due to him being devoutly Christian? Your mind works in fascinating ways. If Tebow was a Muslim, I’m quite sure he would be accepted and his running to the mat after calling a time out at the appropriate time for Muslium prayer would generate tons of discussion on and off the air, both positive and negative like we have now with Christian Tebow. As long as Tebow is hot, this would be a good thing for Muslim acceptance in America. To answer your question, Tebow’s support would evaporate if he started losing. The “Allahu Akbar” cry however would not go over well. As far as most of the rest of us are concerned its a Muslim war cry. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/98 "2012-01-03T18:43:30Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I’ll say that I’m glad TT said something along the lines of god doesn’t care about football and kept it about HIS faith, not preachy to anybody. > > What is hypocritical to me is anyone involved in missionary work in third world countries who holds the food hostage before passing out the bibles. Does anyone actually do that, and if they do, can you explain why it’s hypocritical as opposed to just reprehensible? ---
**Author:** ![Untoward\_Parable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Untoward\_Parable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Untoward_Parable)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/99 "2012-01-03T19:20:16Z")
> [@tim-n-va](#): > > resisting temptation to match with equally childish “takes one to know one”. > > failed resisting. > > Not the “homo” that annoys, its the fact that being homosexual (even repressed) is still used as a slam in 2012. > > Taking longer than you thought SDMB, taking longer than you thought. Super Christians that are repressed homosexuals hate homosexuals. If I had an actual slur to use against them I would, but I guess reprehensible annoying morons will have to do even if it’s non-specific to their combination of bible and other kinds of thumping. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717/100 "2012-01-03T19:42:07Z")
> [@Untoward\_Parable](#): > > Super Christians that are repressed homosexuals hate homosexuals. If I had an actual slur to use against them I would, but I guess reprehensible annoying morons will have to do even if it’s non-specific to their combination of bible and other kinds of thumping. Why must everyone be a repressed homosexual? :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-tim-tebow-a-hypocrite/607717.md?page=6)