# Is today Trump’s “Hail Mary” moment? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 14, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802 "2020-04-14T23:02:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/21 "2020-04-17T22:24:02Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > I am dumbfounded. Even after three-plus years of shit, I am blown away. > (To answer your first question, s/h/i/t tweeted this crap minutes after a Fox News “report” inciting this). I might have thought the country could have armed insurrections, but I never thought (silly me) that Trump would be calling for it. > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > What in the world does the second amendment have to do with a stay-at-home order? :dubious: > > What a freakin’ moron (Trump). He’s making a statement that people should defend their second amendment rights by over-throwing the state governments. He is a freakin’ moron, but he’s absolutely a dangerous one. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/22 "2020-04-17T22:33:14Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > They’re not even that. They’re the kind of low-budget infomercials that are only broadcast in the middle of the night on the local public access station. Every evening he’s peddling something that turns out to be garbage. One of these days, I expect him to hold up a can of Brawndo in front of the camera and tell us it’s what coronavirus craves. He’s nothing but a sham-WOW! ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/23 "2020-04-17T22:42:54Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > He’s making a statement that people should defend their second amendment rights by over-throwing the state governments. > > He is a freakin’ moron, but he’s absolutely a dangerous one. To be sure, “go and liberate yourselves” is a call to arms. “Your 2nd amendment rights are under siege”, however, is a complete non-sequitor. Being told to stay at home is unrelated to armament rights. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/24 "2020-04-18T01:04:49Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > . . .One of these days, I expect him to hold up a can of Brawndo in front of the camera and tell us it’s what coronavirus craves. If he does, enough suckers will buy it for him to get elected. Yes, these “briefings” are like crappy, low-budget infomercials, but for him, that \*\*\*IS \*\*\* a campaign ad. He’s getting the vote of the people who watch crappy, low-budge infomercials, and then buy the crap they see. That’s the basis of his election, and his re-election. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/25 "2020-04-18T01:55:07Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > That’s the basis of his election, and his re-election. Let’s not forget Trump went bankrupt six times. He has a history of getting himself into situations by making a lot of promises and then failing when it became apparent he couldn’t deliver. Sure, he got elected the first time by being able to make all the empty promises he could throw out there. But by now some people who voted for him are going to be asking “Where’s all that stuff you promised me four years ago?” ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/26 "2020-04-18T02:26:18Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > …But by now some people who voted for him are going to be asking “Where’s all that stuff you promised me four years ago?” You would _THINK_ that would happen. Thus far however there is exactly zero evidence this is happening and plenty of evidence to indicate they are actually digging their heels in and sticking with him. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/27 "2020-04-18T02:59:23Z")
Trumpweek in Review (snagged from a POLITICO email): On Sunday, President Donald Trump propelled the #FireFauci movement. On Monday, he threatened to seize power from the states. On Tuesday, he unveiled a new advisory council with little to show for it. On Wednesday, he threatened to seize power from Congress. On Thursday, he kicked power back to the states. And today, he encouraged protesters to agitate for their states to open up — contrary to his own guidelines released a day earlier. Two more weeks to go this month. A few dozen more till November. I’m afraid to forecast possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/28 "2020-04-18T04:19:33Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Let’s not forget Trump went bankrupt six times. He has a history of getting himself into situations by making a lot of promises and then failing when it became apparent he couldn’t deliver. Sure, he got elected the first time by being able to make all the empty promises he could throw out there. But by now some people who voted for him are going to be asking “Where’s all that stuff you promised me four years ago?” We can only hope. But I think we’ve seen–especially recently–that whenever he’s called to accountability, he just starts blaming someone else, like a six-year-old caught in the act. And they will join him in blaming someone else. He’s just 100% bullshit, with a cult of bullshit-swallowing followers. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/29 "2020-04-18T06:44:57Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > To be sure, “go and liberate yourselves” is a call to arms. > > “Your 2nd amendment rights are under siege”, however, is a complete non-sequitor. Being told to stay at home is unrelated to armament rights. True, but we’re not the target for the intended message. It’s that “second amendment solution” thing all over again. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/30 "2020-04-18T06:58:47Z")
IOW, he’s simply trotting out buzzwords for the consumption of his cult of personality. Like pretty much everything else, he doesn’t care if it makes sense or not. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/31 "2020-04-19T21:06:23Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > IOW, he’s simply trotting out buzzwords for the consumption of his cult of personality. Like pretty much everything else, he doesn’t care if it makes sense or not. He would not know if it makes sense or not. Not a freeking clue. Nor do his followers. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/32 "2020-04-19T21:57:53Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > You would _THINK_ that would happen. > > Thus far however there is exactly zero evidence this is happening and plenty of evidence to indicate they are actually digging their heels in and sticking with him. Well, he hasn’t run for office since 2016 so it’s hard to see what would constitute proof that he’s lost the level of support he needs. But his poll numbers are horrible. And several candidates who he has thrown his support behind have lost elections. So there are definite signs that his base has shrunk below a survivable level. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802/33 "2020-04-19T22:11:08Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Well, he hasn’t run for office since 2016 so it’s hard to see what would constitute proof that he’s lost the level of support he needs. > > But his poll numbers are horrible. And several candidates who he has thrown his support behind have lost elections. So there are definite signs that his base has shrunk below a survivable level. I don’t think that his base has shrunk very much at all. His approval ratings are set in stone unchanging no matter what he does. What has changed since 2016 is that he has lost just about anyone who is not his base, and he has woken up the opposition out of their complacency. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-today-trump-s-hail-mary-moment/851802.md?page=1)