# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2014 "2024-09-08T17:28:43Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> My tweet in response was to point out that, of course he knows about cheating and skulduggery. He tried to implement them both after he lost the 2020 election.

Correction: He tried to implement them _before_ he lost the 2020 election. They just weren’t enough.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2015 "2024-09-08T19:59:21Z")

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Perhaps Trump will tie an onion to his belt for Tuesday’s debate. I hear it is fashionable.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2016 "2024-09-08T20:24:42Z")

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> <https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1832765611014832557>

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2017 "2024-09-08T21:09:16Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Perhaps Trump will tie an onion to his belt for Tuesday’s debate. I hear it is fashionable.

I’ll tax China three bees on every quarter!

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2018 "2024-09-09T01:52:03Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Confused? Batshit crazy, is more like it.

Agreed.

Of course someone can be both confused and batshit crazy.

I’ve argued, in this thread, that he isn’t confused. But he skips around more than four years ago, and it takes a bit more mental effort to follow his illogic. I do not think this matters at rallies. I’ll be I interested to see how this plays out Tuesday night. The big question isn’t whether he’s objectively confused, but whether persuadable voters will find him confusing.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2019 "2024-09-09T10:28:41Z")

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So you think he can rein himself in? Heck, I expect him to call Kamala “Joe” or “Biden” at least once.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2020 "2024-09-09T11:11:46Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> . . . I expect him to call Kamala “Joe” or “Biden” at least once.

This is not something that would confuse many of us. While Harris supporters watching the debate will like it when Trump does it, such DJT bloopers, which viewers can correct in real time, will not hurt him. What would hurt him is answers where even a generous listener cannot pick up why one sentence led to the next.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2021 "2024-09-09T11:42:26Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> What would hurt him is answers where even a generous listener cannot pick up why one sentence led to the next.

If only! ☹

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2022 "2024-09-09T12:01:54Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> What would hurt him is answers where even a generous listener cannot pick up why one sentence led to the next.

I can’t do that in most cases. It’s stream of conscious with no particular direction much of the time.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2023 "2024-09-09T13:12:51Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I expect him to call Kamala “Joe”…

‘Kamal Joe’?

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2024 "2024-09-09T13:28:14Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> In his recent diatribe about Jean Carroll, he acts like it’s breaking news that she watches Law & Order, and that it explains everything that’s happened to date.

His point was that Law & Order had a storyline just like what she claimed, _and that episode was the inspiration for her claim._ That’s relevant and clear. It may be false, but it’s not generic “she watches Law & Order, she must be lying”.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2025 "2024-09-09T13:33:39Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> ‘Kamal Joe’?

“Joemala” flows better.

He might screw it up as “Jamala” though, which will lead to a series of social media posts about eating a peanut butter and jamala sandwich.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2026 "2024-09-09T13:34:18Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> “Joemala” flows better.

I was going for a ‘camel toe’ joke.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2027 "2024-09-09T13:35:33Z")

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Yeah, I got that, but Trump is too old for the camel toe thing to register. That’s not a slang he grew up with.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2028 "2024-09-09T13:42:00Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> That’s not a slang he grew up with.

It shouldn’t matter. Trump knows more about slang than anyone.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2029 "2024-09-09T14:30:26Z")

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Oh, I assumed it was a “Joe Camel” from those old cigarette ads for some reason.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2030 "2024-09-09T15:16:44Z")

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He’ll do some weak-assed ‘Commie-la’ and it will be completely ignored.

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2031 "2024-09-09T16:21:21Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> “At levels never seen before in our country.” There he is trotting out that tired old line. Is that on the Trump blather bingo card?

Next thing, he’ll start using “wine-dark sea,” “rosy-fingered dawn,” and “winged words.”

I kid, of course. The only Odyssey he knows is Honda’s.

And I’m kidding about that, too.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2032 "2024-09-09T18:36:55Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> So you think he can rein himself in? Heck, I expect him to call Kamala “Joe” or “Biden” at least once.

Possibly he’s more likely to call her Nikki, or refer to her time as UN Ambassador and call her ungrateful to him since he’s the one who appointed her to that post.

(Some think his accusation against Harris at the National Association of Black Journalists appearance, namely that she ‘used to be Indian,’ was a case of his brain conflating the two women. Bad women who oppose him don’t deserve individual identities!!!)

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2033 "2024-09-09T19:32:08Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> It’s stream of conscious with no particular direction much of the time.

He wants no sissies, so he read to us from something called Ulysses.

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