# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2494 "2024-10-10T13:20:42Z")

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Eric could not top the turkey. Not even after the turkey gets roasted.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2495 "2024-10-10T14:17:34Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Eric could not top the turkey.

‘Top’ as in ‘to kill’; or ‘top’ as in ‘to have sex with’?

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2496 "2024-10-10T14:19:10Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Those around him will be able to manipulate him, making him unable to consolidate dictatorial power. I wonder who those people would be.

The Lincoln Project put out a great commercial suggesting JD Vance is being set up to outright replace Trump. I’m not sure if I believe it because I have trouble swallowing the idea that Vance is the best they could do but nonetheless… we know Trump has a complex around getting betrayed by those who are closest to him.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/k2TZx5WbOj4/maxresdefault.jpg "Brutus") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2TZx5WbOj4)

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> ‘Top’ as in ‘to kill’; or ‘top’ as in ‘to have sex with’?

These are not mutually exclusive.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2497 "2024-10-10T14:21:05Z")

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Eric is clearly a bottom anyway.

Meanwhile…

> **[After picking ‘cognitive problems’ fight, Trump faces awkward questions](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/picking-cognitive-problems-fight-trump-faces-awkward-questions-rcna174357)**
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> As the race enters its final month, it's Donald Trump — who could become the oldest person ever to serve as president — facing questions about being impaired.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2498 "2024-10-10T14:24:27Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> I’m not sure if I believe it because I have trouble swallowing the idea that Vance is the best they could do but nonetheless…

I imagine it’s rather difficult to find someone who’d be willing to have their name replace “Mike Pence”.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/GuCysTdbn94/hqdefault.jpg "Rioters Chanted 'Hang Mike Pence' During Capitol Attack") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCysTdbn94)

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2499 "2024-10-10T19:59:38Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> I wonder if those in the background are paid to hold those signs. They sure look bored in that still image!

I’ve been noticing the same thing lately. And in the videos I’ve seen as well, not just the still images. A lot of bored, vacant expressions. Very little of the old enthusiasm.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2500 "2024-10-10T20:25:27Z")

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“If I were named Obama, I would’ve had the Nobel Prize. He got the prize, he didn’t know what he got it for. He got elected. So did I… I got elected too. There’s a lot unfairness in this world”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1844463386681364983>

“I stopped a lot of wars from starting. There were countries that were going war and I stopped them using trade. Countries that have been fighting for centuries”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1844462497375650181>

“I will stop Chinese and other countries produced audiblebile and autonomous vehicles. Do you like autonomous? Does anybody like an autonomous vehicle? You know what that is right? When you see a car driving along.”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1844459062140047680>

“We don’t have electricity. In California, you have brownouts or blackouts every week. They place is stone cold broke, no electricity. You blackouts and brownouts all the time”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1844457834031009911>

“The word grocery. It’s a sort of simple word. It sort of means everything you eat. The stomach is speaking”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1844456223883788692>

“These things were coming cylinders, no wings, no nothing, and they’re coming down very slowly, landing on a raft in the middle of the ocean someplace with a circle, reminded me of the Biden circles that he used to have… then I heard we lost”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1844444488187478017>

“Now, I’m gonna make it real – very quick it’s gonna go. But to bring it to that level I guess I’ll need a little more time but I won’t have that time but I’m gonna have, I’m gonna hand it over to people. We’re gonna make this country so strong”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1844450445739123123>

“They don’t wanna-- I say, ohhh-- They don’t wanna – when I first, I thought I was seeing things. I thought I wassss… like-- I didn’t hear that when I first start this ho-- they’d say ‘the Democrats will not approve voter ID.’”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1844440935603527812>

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2501 "2024-10-10T20:34:27Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “Now, I’m gonna make it real – very quick it’s gonna go. But to bring it to that level I guess I’ll need a little more time but I won’t have that time but I’m gonna have, I’m gonna hand it over to people. We’re gonna make this country so strong”

First time I’ve heard him say the plan is to hand the country over to the real professional Fascists after trump gets his incompetent greedy-but-not-violent self elected.

By far the main risk of a trump presidency isn’t Trump. It’s the pros who’re now lining up to take over after he’s in.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2502 "2024-10-10T20:34:37Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> And in the videos I’ve seen as well, not just the still images. A lot of bored, vacant expressions. Very little of the old enthusiasm.

I watched a bit of the one I quoted. It’s as if somebody lit up a “ **don’t look bored** ” sign, _then_ they were enthusiastic.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2503 "2024-10-10T22:26:25Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “We don’t have electricity. In California, you have brownouts or blackouts every week. They place is stone cold broke, no electricity. You blackouts and brownouts all the time”
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> [x.com](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1844457834031009911)

A few years ago, there were some rolling brownouts. Other than PG&E shutting down power (with notice) in fire danger areas with high wings and above ground power lines, it hasnt happened recently. Texas is the state with grid issues, not CA.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2504 "2024-10-10T22:38:21Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> it hasnt happened recently.

Not since the bad ol’ days of Enron some 20 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2505 "2024-10-10T23:07:54Z")

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“From Commerce, to Labor, (fart) and FEMA”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1844476557768999384>

"A catastrophe for the American dream (FARRRRRRRRT) and a dire crisis…

> <https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1844456973351444990>
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> Aaron Rupar @atrupar

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2506 "2024-10-10T23:42:35Z")

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A friend of mine who was raised in Brooklyn, NY told me that certain allegations about Trump’s, um … lower gastrointestinal tract … are common knowledge among the people working in commercial establishments that Trump likes to frequent. I have not repeated his remarks in detail and don’t intend to, as they seem like nothing but outlandish hearsay. HOWEVER, the sounds in the last two clips seem to support the gossip.

If only our computers could record smells as well as sound and pictures. On second thought…

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2507 "2024-10-11T01:33:51Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> HOWEVER, the sounds in the last two clips seem to support the gossip.

He said it himself, the stomach is speaking.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2508 "2024-10-11T02:24:51Z")

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I’d like that too, Johnny was great.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2509 "2024-10-11T04:33:30Z")

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Well, we really would need Jesus to come back for that.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2510 "2024-10-11T14:04:00Z")

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If [my link. covering the Detroit speech](https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/the-one-thing-obama-got-wrong?r=2juke&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email) where Trump allegedly passed gas, is correct in saying this was mostly ad libbed, Trump is mentally sharp for his age:

> [@](#):
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> For generations, this city and state were the world capital of automotive production, and American automakers rolled one iconic model off the line after the next—the Mustang, the Corvette, the Pontiac GTO—I had two of them actually. I had that GTO, oh, I thought I was the hottest guy around, it was crazy. We didn’t have all of the foreign competition then. We were so proud to have the Corvette—oh, if you had a Corvette—I never got a Corvette, I tell you, I feel—I was left behind. But I had my GTO, I was something, man. I put that top down. See in those days I didn’t mind when the hair waved. I’d go fast and that hair would be waving, that blonde hair, and I’d say, ‘Who the hell can take me?’ Nobody. Today I’m a little more careful. I want to cover up that little area up there. It’s a little bit soft up there. Cover it up. No, it was great. But you did, you had the greatest product. It was just fantastic.

My guess is that the first sentence above was off the teleprompter, and the rest was ad libbed.

The writers of All in the Family would probably have taken an hour or two to come up with that, maybe putting it in the mouth of Archie’s rich brother.

But maybe I’m wrong. Someone needs to link the teleprompter script.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2511 "2024-10-11T14:48:27Z")

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That passes as mentally sharp for you? Uh, okay. I’ll grant, this piece is not the normal gibberish, but Cicero it ain’t.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2512 "2024-10-11T15:05:41Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> I never got a Corvette, I tell you, I feel—I was left behind. But I had my GTO, I was something, man.

(quote is Trump, not PhillyGuy but I’m not messing with anything inside of quote tags)

Poor Old Numpty Thinks It’s A Corvette.

I think the combination of nostalgia and narcissism is what is at work in that little speech. Waxing poetically (for a certain value of “poetically” of course) about how great things used to be is kind of Trump’s stock in trade.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2513 "2024-10-11T15:15:35Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> That passes as mentally sharp for you? Uh, okay. I’ll grant, this piece is not the normal gibberish, but Cicero it ain’t.

The excerpt contains trace amounts of humility and self depredation I didn’t think Trump was capable of. It’s fucking Shakespeare beside the bar Trump has set for himself.

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