# Is Trump confused? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 127
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2554 "2024-10-12T20:21:04Z")
He was doing some masterful weaving. Are the eight circles Biblical in nature? Like from The Apocalypse or the Book of Revelations? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2555 "2024-10-12T20:25:30Z")
Maybe the reference is to Dante’s “Nine Circles of Hell:” > **[Dante's 9 Circles of Hell: A Guide to the Structure of 'Inferno'](https://www.thoughtco.com/dantes-9-circles-of-hell-741539)** > > Here's a structural overview of the nine circles of hell in the first part of the Italian poet Dante Alighier's "Divine Comedy." Think about it: - With Trump, every accusation is actually a confession - It’s a book. Trump can’t/doesn’t read - It’s a number less than ten – something exceedingly difficult for Trump to get right > **List of the Circles** > > Circle one: Limbo, where pagans who were good people go > Circle two: Lust > Circle three: Gluttony > Circle four: Greed > Circle five: Wrath > Circle six: Heresy > Circle seven: Violence > Circle eight: Fraud > Circle nine: Treachery ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2556 "2024-10-12T20:38:43Z")
“They wanna do things like no more cows” > ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2557 "2024-10-12T21:02:41Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Are the eight circles Biblical in nature? Like from The Apocalypse or the Book of Revelations? He’s talking about the social distancing circles Biden had on floors at events during the 2020 campaign. You know, when Biden was being socially responsible. Something Trump didn’t give two shits about (as Herman Cain and other found out). Trump believes that Biden couldn’t fill those circles with people so therefore he did not win the election. It’s another case of him hanging onto perceived slights forever and definitely weird. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2558 "2024-10-12T21:03:52Z")
I’m pretty sure the “circles” thing was in relation to the social distancing circles at the few Biden events in 2020. And he’s claiming that there weren’t even enough supporters to fill them, and that the Biden campaign had to fill them with press members. And yet somehow Biden won. Basically it’s just another variant on his usual crowd size shtick. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2559 "2024-10-12T21:16:50Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “I’m leading Pennsylvania by a lot. That would be the end of Pennsylvania.” I realize this isn’t what he (presumably) meant, but: if he gets in, who’d be surprised if he decided, after he declares himself President-for-Life, to let all fifty states “honor” him by changing their names? You know, perfectly voluntarily, out of their immense and eternal love for him? So Pennsylvania becomes Trumpsylvania. Massachusetts becomes Trumpsachusetts. Oregon becomes Trumpegon. Montana becomes Trumptana. And so on. Some of the states present a bit of a problem, of course. If you make Kansas into Trumpsas, then do you make Arkansas into ArTrumpsas? It’s a puzzle over which, I expect, he’ll enjoy a good ponder. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2560 "2024-10-13T00:23:51Z")
“I would love to hear from the father… nobody ever talks about the father. If it was me they’d be talking about, let’s go and interview the father. Nobody. Did you ever hear the mainstream media said, let’s talk to her father?” > “I’m getting all of the Christian vote. How could a Christian vote for— I have— I have such endorsements. I have so many people supporting me” > ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2561 "2024-10-13T01:15:16Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > So Pennsylvania becomes Trumpsylvania. Massachusetts becomes Trumpsachusetts. Oregon becomes Trumpegon. Montana becomes Trumptana. And so on. From Superman 1978, Lex is looking at a map of California- _[Lex Luthor](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000432/?ref_=tt_ch): Bye-bye, California. HELLO, new West Coast. My West Coast._ _[Otis ducks down and overlays map with new map]_ _[Lex Luthor](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000432/?ref_=tt_ch): [reading from map] “Costa del Lex”, “Luthorville”, “Marina del Lex”, “Otisburg”…_ ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2562 "2024-10-13T01:29:14Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > So Pennsylvania becomes Trumpsylvania. Massachusetts becomes Trumpsachusetts. Oregon becomes Trumpegon. Montana becomes Trumptana. And so on. Trumporado, Trumpinois, Trumpraska? Wy-o-Trumping? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2563 "2024-10-13T01:30:44Z")
“I will very quickly defleet. We are going to take inflation. And we are going to deflate it. We are going to deflate inflation. We are going to defeat inflation” > “Kamala gets four more years, the entire country will become like the migrant camp of LA and San Francisco… Look, it’s Abraham Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln, stand up. Whoa!” > “How do you like the vice president? She picked? Look, you know, we used to have the greatest Abraham Lincoln. George— Now, look at this stuff. Can you believe what we’re doing?” > “You can have a brand new, beautiful computer… And in about two weeks, it’s obsolete. But wheels and walls never get obsolete” > ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2564 "2024-10-13T01:53:08Z")
Some of these names are just Trump-l’œil. Why stop at state names? Cities, mountains, rivers, schools, waste disposal facilities, sewage treatment centres, universities, churches, tar pits, swamps, lakes, migrant detention facilities, airports and research chairs in dealmaking are all obvious targets for rebranding after The Donald and his family. DJT airport seems to be unassigned. Melaniapolis? Ivankaho? ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2565 "2024-10-13T02:14:44Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Look, you know, we used to have the greatest Abraham Lincoln. Has he been replaced by a _lesser_ Abraham Lincoln? I watch and read news all day but I somehow missed out on this one. Did someone build a time machine for this specific purpose? The only meaning I can possibly parse out of this is that he thinks Lincoln has somehow been _cancelled_. Maybe Trump watched **Civil War** , saw that part where troops fire a rocket at the Lincoln Memorial and thought it was a documentary. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2566 "2024-10-13T02:22:42Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Why stop at state names? Why stop at names? Maybe he’ll go full Mussolini and change the calendar. Except that Trump has never threatened this, except to change the name of Fort Liberty back to Fort Bragg. I think there is more than enough to criticize him for without need to speculate regarding actions he may take despite having never threatened them. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2567 "2024-10-13T02:27:12Z")
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2568 "2024-10-13T17:54:26Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > Look, you know, we used to have the greatest Abraham Lincoln. > > Has he been replaced by a _lesser_ Abraham Lincoln? I watch and read news all day but I somehow missed out on this one. Did someone build a time machine for this specific purpose? > > The only meaning I can possibly parse out of this is that he thinks Lincoln has somehow been _cancelled_. Maybe Trump watched **Civil War** , saw that part where troops fire a rocket at the Lincoln Memorial and thought it was a documentary. And you just know Trump was disappointed that Iron Man didn’t show up. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2569 "2024-10-13T17:57:21Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > And you just know Trump was disappointed that Iron Man didn’t show up It wouldn’t surprise me that Trump idolizes Tony Stark; after all, in _The Avengers_, Stark describes himself as “genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist.” Trump clearly sees himself as the first three of those four words. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2570 "2024-10-13T18:35:36Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > It wouldn’t surprise me that Trump idolizes Tony Stark; after all, in _The Avengers_, Stark describes himself as “genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist.” Trump clearly sees himself as the first three of those four words. And he’ll label himself the last because it sounds good. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2571 "2024-10-13T19:50:16Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > “Otisburg”… As I recall, Lex disallowed that one. Hackman’s Luthor had a lot in common with Donald, ‘hair issues’ being one of them. Of course Luthor had about 9,999,999,999,999,999,999 times Donald’s brainpower. > [@Spoons](#): > > Trumporado, Trumpinois, Trumpraska? > Wy-o-Trumping? See, the thing is, he’d LOVE the process of hashing all that out. Remember how he spent hours and hours on the décor for the refurbishment of Airforce One? He adores anything to do with putting his stamp on the reality the rest of us have to live in. > [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > DJT airport seems to be unassigned. Anyone care to bet on whether (hypothetically second-term) President Trump’s new lackeys would dare to even hint that there _could_ be a problem with renaming EVERY airport “DJT Airport” …??? > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I think there is more than enough to criticize him for without need to speculate regarding actions he may take despite having never threatened them. I suspect that the horror of what he’d actually do will dwarf even our most outlandish imaginings. Renaming states in his honor: would it be smart to bet _against_ it? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2572 "2024-10-13T19:58:58Z")
My $0.02 on this ‘naming’ thing is that y’all just may be overthinking it a skosh. I would submit that this article elucidates the archetype for Trump’s likely naming convention: [**George Foreman reveals reason why five sons and two grandsons are all named George Foreman**](https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/sport/boxing-george-foreman-children-family-b2323656.html) > [@](#): > > George Foreman has revealed why five of his sons - and two grandsons - are all called George Edward Foreman. > > The Boxing legend, 74, insists that he doesn’t want his name “to die”. > > “It just keeps coming up,” he told Good Morning Britain on Thursday 20 April. > > “I don’t want the name to die.” Ergo, everything named uptthread, and everything else that Trump can think of, will simply be renamed “TRUMP.” Will it be confusing? Oh, Hell, yes. But that won’t ever be a consideration. It also ties in nicely with the topic at hand 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2573 "2024-10-13T20:51:48Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I would submit that this article elucidates the archetype for Trump’s likely naming convention Fred Trump owned the first supermarket in Queens. My WAG is that Donald has a formative memory of seeing the name “TRUMP” on the marquee and has been obsessed with that image ever since. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=126) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=128)