# Is Trump confused? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 128
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2574 "2024-10-13T22:00:38Z")
“Tivo or its equivalent, the greatest invention in human history” > “You don’t need a bill. My father used to tell me these guys who need letters… those guys never worked out because they need a letter. It was the ones that walked in and said I’m the boss now, you’re going to listen to me” > ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2575 "2024-10-13T23:52:03Z")
“That includes you guys, ok? That includes zen, zen, does that include us? Yeah.” > “You know who the smartest person they say in history was? Albert Einssshhh - he said Trump! I agree with him!” > “You know, Biden never took it off, because if he ever did, it’s so much money, but also if he ever did, our cun, our company, our country would be just overrun.” > “Does anyone believe in genes? Do you guys believe in genetics? These guys have good genetics for safety and that’s all we want you for. We don’t want you for anything else” > “For weeks and weeks, I’m up here ranting and raving. Last night, a hundred thousand people. Flawless. Ranting and raving. I’m ranting and raving. I’ll say the, I’ll say duh.” > “Where is that woman? Stand up! Look at her. Wow! I would say-that’s beautiful. Is she your wife? You know what? I would say she’s a beautiful woman but if I did say that my political career, you’re not allowed to say that. So I’m not allowed to call you a beautiful woman” > “She redefined check, and this is like, crazy, child sex trafficking” > ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2576 "2024-10-14T00:24:24Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “For weeks and weeks, I’m up here ranting and raving. Last night, a hundred thousand people. Flawless. Ranting and raving. I’m ranting and raving. He admits he’s ranting and raving. Geez, Donald, don’t you know that’s not a good thing? ---
**Author:** ![XOldiesJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ec9cab/32.png) [@XOldiesJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XOldiesJock)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2577 "2024-10-14T00:35:37Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > _Stark describes himself as “genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist.” Trump clearly sees himself as the first three of those four words._ I doubt he can pronounce the word “Philanthropist.” He’d just call himself a “Good Deed Doer.” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2578 "2024-10-14T01:11:45Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > My problem is with underestimating an often wily adversary. If Trump wins, will his confusion lead to him, say, forget [that he wants Mark Miley executed](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/trump-milley-execution-incitement-violence/675435/), or to his losing interest in finding a complete toady for Attorney General? And then, what, after a year or two an obviously dementia-ridden Trump will be replaced by J. D. Vance, who would at least be a less erratic commander in chief? Could be, but I doubt it. IMO pretty quickly he will be inert. And utterly contained by the actual _eminence gris_ who’re behind all this. Then the truly evil people who are both smart and Fascist and ruthless _and_ effective will do all the bad crap trump would do if he could be bothered to think about it. When you elect trump you elect a blank slate peopled entirely by the fascists who ~~hope~~ expect to replace trump _de facto_, if not _de jure_ almost immediately so they can complete their takeover without some carnival barker making undisciplined noise on the sideline. OTOH, if that’s what you (any you) really want, then the line of JAQing makes lots of sense. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2579 "2024-10-14T01:30:24Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > IMO pretty quickly he will be inert. And utterly contained by the actual _eminence gris_ who’re behind all this. Then the truly evil people who are both smart and Fascist and ruthless _and_ effective will do all the bad crap trump would do if he could be bothered to think about it. I expect the eminence gris would push policies like those of Pierre Poilievre, Canada’s fake-populist elite favorite. Not good, but way better than DJT. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2580 "2024-10-14T01:34:58Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I expect the eminence gris would push policies like those of Pierre Poilievre, Canada’s fake-populist elite favorite. The eminence gris is a German-born techno-fascist who was raised in apartheid South Africa, hates the free press for outing him when he was pretending to be straight, thinks women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, and is best friends with Elon Musk. > **[Peter Thiel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel)** > > Peter Andreas Thiel (/tiːl/; born 11 October 1967) is an American entrepreneur, venture capitalist, and political activist. A co-founder of PayPal, Palantir Technologies, and Founders Fund, he was the first outside investor in Facebook. As of July 2024\[update\], Thiel had an estimated net worth of US$11.2 billion and was ranked 212th on the Bloomberg Billionaires Index. > Thiel has worked as a securities lawyer at Sullivan & Cromwell, a speechwriter for former U.S. Secretary of Education Willia... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2581 "2024-10-14T02:43:50Z")
“We have many Azurasians in our room. We have some incredible people in our room. We have so many that we just can’t. But we have some people, we have some people in our room that I’m not gonna mention because they fully understand why.” > ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2582 "2024-10-14T02:47:35Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > But we have some people, we have some people in our room that I’m not gonna mention because they fully understand why.” Witness protection program? Undocumented immigrants? No, wait, I’ve got it…Nazis!! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2583 "2024-10-14T02:59:09Z")
Maria Bartiromo: Which government agencies would you shut down? Trump: Well, let me have you ask another person that, because I’m gonna have Elon Musk, he is, he is dying to do this, you know he’s a great business guy actually, you think of him for science and rockets and every time I’m thinking he’s telling me about a new screw that was just developed, he developed a new screw, it screws in difficult, uh, it’s made out of titanium, and so exciting, but you know what? He’s a great business guy. And he’s a great cost-cutter, you’ve seen that. And he said I could cut costs without affecting anybody. Bartiromo: So he will be in the Cabinet? Trump: Not in the Cabinet, he doesn’t wanna be in the cah, he just wants to be in charge of cost cutting. We’ll have a new position, Secretary of Cost Cutting, OK? Elon wants to do that, and we have incredible people, he’s running a big business, he can’t just say oh I think I’ll go into the Cabinet, you know, other people can, he can’t, but Elon’s a little bit different, in that sense, and he besides that, I want him to send a rocket up to Mars, he said, wait, he’s made me a promise he’ll get to Mars before the end of my administration, which will hopefully be long before Russia and China > ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2584 "2024-10-14T03:05:04Z")
Should work out well. SpaceX just had a big success with the mechanical arms, and things go very smoothly at Tesla when Musk spends time on other projects. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2585 "2024-10-14T03:14:42Z")
Just noticed the FOX banner. How do they manipulate stats to get 19.9% ? Or are they now 100% making shit up? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2586 "2024-10-14T06:18:33Z")
Just weaponized ignorance. Some prices are almost 20% higher than they were in January 2021 and therefore that’s the “inflation rate”. And it’s all Biden’s fault. You and I know that this isn’t how you calculate inflation and that much of that price increase has nothing to do with Biden, but then we don’t live in the RW propaganda bubble. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2587 "2024-10-14T07:10:16Z")
> [@from Smapti's transcript](#): > > Trump: Not in the Cabinet, he doesn’t wanna be in the cah, he just wants to be in charge of cost cutting. We’ll have a new position, Secretary of Cost Cutting, OK? Elon wants to do that, I wonder how much cash Elon promised Trump in exchange for this plan? It has to be pretty massive. Trump doesn’t do favors cheap. But then again, maybe he would let Elon be the Secretary of Cost Cutting just on this ridiculous promise: > [@from Smapti's transcript](#): > > besides that, I want him to send a rocket up to Mars, he said, wait, he’s made me a promise he’ll get to Mars before the end of my administration, Would he wait that long for a payoff on the hope that a rocket named TRUMP will land on Mars? Eh, maybe. He is a moron. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2588 "2024-10-14T13:43:34Z")
So Trump’s plan is to turn everything over to the bean counter. A bean counter who knows next to nothing about the details of how each agency quirks, what it’s mission is, and why things are the way they are. Great… Bean counters make wonderful decisions, especially when they know nothing about their assignment. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2589 "2024-10-14T13:57:19Z")
If everything is great, well then you cheat. Take money from the great. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2590 "2024-10-14T14:03:58Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > List of the Circles Looks like Trump qualifies for all of them except Limbo. Where would he go or would he just rotate them them? > [@Smapti](#): > > The eminence gris is a German-born techno-fascist who was raised in apartheid South Africa, hates the free press for outing him when he was pretending to be straight, thinks women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, and is best friends with Elon Musk. Yeah, but he’s White. Those immigrants are OK. > [@Mike\_Mabes](#): > > Or are they now 100% making shit up? They’re making 142.7% of the shit up. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2591 "2024-10-14T14:12:32Z")
Man, if I were in charge of ads, I’d just take a bunch of the stupid shit he’s saying that we’re seeing in this thread, and put it together it in a montage for 30-60 seconds with an old-school laugh track over it, and clips of people pointing and laughing interspersed between clips. Run it in swing states. I just don’t think most people know the insane stuff he says. It needs to be put front and center, and get people laughing at him before election day. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2592 "2024-10-14T14:20:15Z")
I’m not familiar with Dante’s work, to my shame. But Trump appears to have an assigned slot in every circle of hell. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2593 "2024-10-14T14:45:56Z")
This, from his Friday speech in Aurora Colarado, is so clear, and so much worse than if he was a confused old man: [We have to live with these animals, but we’re not gonna live with them for long, you watch.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/they-re-animals-trump-vows-mass-deportation-under-law-used-to-justify-japanese-internment-camps/ar-AA1s7kYd) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=127) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=129)