# Is Trump confused? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 148
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2974 "2024-10-22T17:05:25Z")
Trump skips another event, this one an online town hall with Tulsi and RFK Jr… > **[Harris Rallies, Trump Derails As Election Day Draws Closer: Latest Updates](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/harris-rallies-trump-derails-election-latest-updates_n_6712b403e4b0a8cd2c959ea4/liveblog_6717d0c9e4b0f3057ef75f03)** > > Read live updates on the 2024 election. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2975 "2024-10-22T17:12:23Z")
> [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > That Trump is not such a person is obvious if you watch the man. And so, for years, his supporters have said: Don’t watch the man. Don’t listen to what he says. Look at the results. But those results reflected the power and ability of others to check Trump, to inhibit him when he could not inhibit himself. It is not just the man who is now unfit; it is the people and institutions that surround him.” I think this is part of problem with getting through to low information voters. Before Biden dropped out, my very intelligent, fairly successful brother was going to vote for Trump. He admitted Trump is a nutbar but his ~~greed~~ financial interests dictated that choice. I asked him if he was aware of the giant, noxious cloud of batshit crazy surrounding Trump, that will remain long after he’s sweating in Hell. No, he wasn’t; he was only focusing on the one issue he _thinks_ will affect him. It’s nearly impossible for me to believe any issue could be more important than the harm that will done with another Trump presidency but some people are blind and deaf to things they think won’t touch them. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2976 "2024-10-22T17:44:06Z")
> [The website](https://usa24townhall.com/event-cancelled) now reads, “this event has been cancelled for now due to changes in President Trump’s schedule.” AKA, naptime, followed by some uppers to keep him shambling along. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2977 "2024-10-22T17:46:10Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > He admitted Trump is a nutbar but his ~~greed~~ financial interests dictated that choice. What “financial interests” does he have, that he thinks Trump will improve? After languishing for most of the last decade after multiple economic crises, my retirement saving fund is probably 80% higher now than it was in 2020. I can’t see anything Trump could do that would improve on that. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2978 "2024-10-22T17:48:55Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > AKA, naptime, followed by some uppers to keep him shambling along. It’s interesting that they just cancelled it outright, rather than let Trump’s stand-ins get the message out that was ostensibly the theme of the event. It’s almost as if the “I like his policies” crowd knows that his policies are entirely empty, and so there’s no point in having anyone else but Trump on the stage, since his surrogates will be even more empty than him. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2979 "2024-10-22T17:55:02Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > What “financial interests” does he have, that he thinks Trump will improve? I’m heavily invested in Hugo Boss! [![](https://preview.redd.it/bk07sz1mb8031.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=58800190eac3c94ff721207ff9964eb415ef3804) ](https://preview.redd.it/bk07sz1mb8031.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=58800190eac3c94ff721207ff9964eb415ef3804) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2980 "2024-10-22T19:16:07Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > What “financial interests” does he have, that he thinks Trump will improve? It’s a matter of rightwing dogma that the Republicans are better for the economy than the Democrats. The fact that like every other claim the Right makes that this is contradicted by reality is just ignored. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2981 "2024-10-22T19:21:09Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Wrong, as stated above. Note we were talking about Vancouver WA, which is urban and blue. > **[Vancouver, WA Politics & Voting](https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/washington/vancouver)** > > Best Places to Live | Compare cost of living, crime, cities, schools and more. **Clark County, WA is leaning liberal. In Clark County, WA 51.0% of the people voted Democrat** in the last presidential election, **45.9% voted for the Republican Party** , and the remaining **3.2% voted Independent**. **In the last Presidential election, Clark county remained moderately Democratic, 51.0% to 45.9%.** _Clark county voted Democratic in the four most recent Presidential elections, after 2000 and 2004 went Republican._ > [@psychobunny](#): > > He says in that clip that he could have had the entire border wall built in 3 days. The question is why didn’t he do it in four years? Yep, the MAGAs say, if Harris has so many good ideas why didnt they get put into effect in the last 4 years? 🙄 Well, first of all, Harris is Veep, not president, next the Dems had an uncooperative House. But if trump has so many great ideas- why didnt he get those done in his four years? ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2982 "2024-10-22T19:30:02Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s a matter of rightwing dogma that the Republicans are better for the economy than the Democrats. 1. If you look at the economy under Trump before covid, it was much stronger than under Obama. 2. Look at the high inflation and high interest rates after Biden took office. 3. Look at gas prices when Biden took office. It’s clear, the Dems are bad at economy and Trump was good. The facts don’t lie! (/Republican) I know, that’s not a look at the actual dynamics that drove those performance differences. The cursory look at the “data” confirms the expectation. That’s all they need to see. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2983 "2024-10-22T19:48:53Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > > [@Horatius](#): > > > > What “financial interests” does he have, that he thinks Trump will improve? > > I’m heavily invested in Hugo Boss! > > [Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://preview.redd.it/bk07sz1mb8031.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=58800190eac3c94ff721207ff9964eb415ef3804) That’s my least favorite boss fight. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2984 "2024-10-22T20:00:26Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s a matter of rightwing dogma that the Republicans are better for the economy than the Democrats. The fact that like every other claim the Right makes that this is contradicted by reality is just ignored. Bingo. As I said, low info voter and also taught (basically) Dems = poor(er) Pubs=rich. I think that was probably true when we grew up in the late 70s and our parents explained it that way. This is in reply to @Horatius ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2985 "2024-10-22T20:00:41Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > - Look at the high inflation and high interest rates after Biden took office. > - Look at gas prices when Biden took office. Huh. Here in Canada, I have been told by Conservatives that Trudeau was entirely responsible for inflation and high gas prices. Just recently, I’ve been told by Conservatives that our provincial premier was responsible for inflation. Seems that this “argument” (and I use that term loosely) is common around the world among right-leaning folks. I suggest these conservatives take a simple course in economics, or read a Wikipedia article on it. This might be of some use to them. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2986 "2024-10-22T20:05:14Z")
“Where’s Christi? Is she around? Let’s see. Christi? Christi?” (Christi was sitting right next to him) > **['Where's Christi?' Trump can't find Florida mayor who is sitting right next...](https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-christi-fraga/)** > > Former President Donald Trump couldn't find the mayor of Doral, Florida, Tuesday — even though she was sitting directly to his left.At a roundtable campaign event with Latino leaders on Tuesday, Trump sought to "thank all of the representatives from... “They have weapons that are of military quality. Somebody said it might be a step up. It’s called a supreme. Military supreme.” > “How would you like to be a woman, a little girl, a little boy, in the trunk of a car? That’s how they find them. A lot of the time they’re DEAD.”" > “[Solar energy is] all steel and glass and wires. It looks like hell. And you see rabbits get caught in it … it’s just terrible.” > “Who the hell takes off? We have 14 days left. And she’ll take a couple of more days off too, you know why? She’s lazy as hell and she’s got that reputation. She’s a radical left lunatic. She’s further left than Bernie Sanders or Pocahontas. Now, Pocahontas, because I think, is Pocahontas, Rick, is Pocahontas further left than Bernie? Just about, right? It’s close. It’s close. Who the hell cares right? Rick says, ‘Eh, I don’t know.’ But they’re out there. But she’s, but she’s furthest left. We can’t have a person, she’s a Marxist. Her father’s a Marxist professor, by the way. The fake news, look at all of them, where’s the father? We should interview because I’d find it interesting to see what he has to say. I don’t know, they seem to have a problem, but it would be nice to interview the father. He’s a Marxist professor and I think that’s okay. that’s good, fine. but I think it’s appropriate that the father be interviewed by the fake news. They don’t want to interview him and I wonder why. If we had a real press in this country, this wouldn’t even be a race. And I’m not sure it is a race anyway. They just came out with the Atlanta constitution—” (gets cut off by CNN) > **['Incoherent stream of consciousness': Fed-up CNN anchor cuts off Trump speech](https://www.rawstory.com/latinos-for-trump-roundtable/)** > > A fed-up CNN anchor cut away from former President Donald Trump's campaign event Tuesday to complain about blatant falsehoods and incoherent rambling. > > Jim Acosta cut live coverage from a Latino roundtable event at Trump National Doral to share his... ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2987 "2024-10-22T20:09:33Z")
From the first of **Smapti’s** links: > “Oh, Christi!” Trump exclaimed. “Christi. Oh, my Christi. Boy, oh, boy. Hi, Christi. Hi, sweetie.” For any “West Wing” fans - Great Jed Bartlet line: > In the future, if you’re wondering, ‘Crime. Boy, I don’t know’ is when I decided to kick your ass. Release the Kamala Kraken. Now, please. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2988 "2024-10-22T20:27:25Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Seems that this “argument” (and I use that term loosely) is common around the world among right-leaning folks. The idea that right wingers are better at running the economy/infrastructure dates back to at least the original fascists; “at least the trains run on time” and all that. (They didn’t) ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2989 "2024-10-22T20:30:14Z")
I agree. That’s a terrific take. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2990 "2024-10-22T21:23:14Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I suggest these conservatives take a simple course in economics, or read a Wikipedia article on it. This might be of some use to them. That presumes they might care about reality. They don’t. Not anymore, if they ever did. Their view is that whatever they believe to be true is true, and whatever they believe to be false is false. Any evidence that suggests otherwise can be disregarded. And if tomorrow those beliefs are swapped around the other way, they will always have been that way. \< insert Orwell reference here \> ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2991 "2024-10-22T21:24:26Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Note we were talking about Vancouver WA, which is urban and blue. You stated > Washington is pretty solidly Blue. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2992 "2024-10-22T21:51:48Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > You stated > > > Washington is pretty solidly Blue. Well, the state as a whole went 58% for Biden in 2020, compared to 39% Trump. The last R Senator from Washington state was in 2001. The last time there were two R senators at the same time was 1923. Governor has been a D since 1985. In the state legislature, D’s hold a majority in the Senate and also in the House. Seems pretty solidly Blue to me. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/2993 "2024-10-22T21:52:18Z")
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