# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3114 "2024-10-29T23:01:32Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Is there really nothing that can be done about blatant lying during an election?

I saw a piece on CNN this morning. They analyzed one of Trump’s ads that quoted newspapers predicting doom and gloom if Harris were to be elected. The reporter looked up the actual articles that were selectively quoted, and the full quotes were nothing like what was implied in the ad. One was even from 6 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3115 "2024-10-30T01:22:04Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Is there really nothing that can be done about blatant lying during an election?

Ron DeSantis’ government tried to shut down a Florida abortion ad on the grounds that it was _false_. A judge shut it down with a blunt quote: _It’s the first amendment, stupid_.

> **[Judge slaps down Florida effort to ban abortion ad: ‘It’s the first...](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/18/florida-abortion-ad)**
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> State health department sent letter to stations demanding they not air TV ad backing abortion access ballot measure

> **[Judge continues to block Florida officials from threatening TV stations over...](https://apnews.com/article/florida-abortion-amendment-6-commercial-lawsuit-election-d762c425f6ec193c3edcf6e6e9c93198)**
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> A federal judge has continued to block the head of Florida’s health department from taking any more steps to threaten TV stations that air commercials for an abortion rights measure on next week’s ballot.

Now, if a candidate lied about a particular person, that person could sue for defamation. But that’s the best I got.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3116 "2024-10-30T01:35:35Z")

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I guess I’m asking about when a candidate lies about another candidate. Not just exaggerating their policies, but outright says defamatory personal complete fabrications.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3117 "2024-10-30T01:41:43Z")

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Trump is looking bizarrely red while he rambles at Sean Hannity in a strangely dark room.

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1851436654843527393>

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3118 "2024-10-30T01:58:43Z")

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“Every time I go outside I see someone from Puerto Rico. They give me a hug and a kiss”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1851439531251154972>

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3119 "2024-10-30T02:20:25Z")

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His groundskeepers?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3120 "2024-10-30T02:22:10Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump is looking bizarrely red while he rambles at Sean Hannity in a strangely dark room.

I’ve learned from this one that if you play from the SD, the video is awful quality. If you click to get it from Xhitter, it is better quality. Note: I do not have a Xhit account.

Yes, he looks like shit. But also, has anyone ever called him on his 100% bullshit story about kids getting gender reassignment surgeries at school without the parents knowledge? How can he continue to peddle this BS without ANYONE calling him on it. I understand Hannity eating Trump’s shit, but anyone else?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3121 "2024-10-30T02:33:41Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> I’ve learned from this one that if you play from the SD, the video is awful quality. If you click to get it from Xhitter, it is better quality.

This video doesn’t look any better on Twitter. He’s got more makeup slathered on than usual and the room he and Hannity are in is strangely dark.

I think the uppers they’re pumping him full of to keep him lucid are starting to run him ragged and they’re having to work harder to hide it, like when Mae West was still trying to play a sexy coquette in her eighties and they had to coat her in makeup and shoot in soft focus to try to hide how old she looked.

[![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjc5NzhhNjgtMTExMS00MGVjLWIyZmQtZTQyNzQxNWM5MjZkXkEyXkFqcGc@._V1_.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjc5NzhhNjgtMTExMS00MGVjLWIyZmQtZTQyNzQxNWM5MjZkXkEyXkFqcGc@._V1_.jpg)

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3122 "2024-10-30T02:39:41Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I guess I’m asking about when a candidate lies about another candidate. Not just exaggerating their policies, but outright says defamatory personal complete fabrications.

Like **Moriarty** said, as far as we can tell all you’ve got is the regular action for defamation. Because as you yourself said that _is_ what that is.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3123 "2024-10-30T02:45:27Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I mean, if I put out an advertisement that lied this obviously about one of my business competitors, I’d get sued into penury.

Most interpretations of the 1st Amendment is that it offers its strongest protections to political speech and courts take great care to avoid trampling on those protections. Commercial speech has fewer protections which is why advertisers can’t outright lie about what their products do, the ingredients, prices, etc., etc.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3124 "2024-10-30T03:03:32Z")

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Plus there’s the higher standard for proving defamation when you’re a public figure.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3125 "2024-10-30T03:37:34Z")

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Which is why that Loomer kook doesn’t have a prayer.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3126 "2024-10-30T09:05:58Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I think the uppers they’re pumping him full of to keep him lucid are starting to run him ragged and they’re having to work harder to hide it, like when Mae West was still trying to play a sexy coquette in her eighties and they had to coat her in makeup and shoot in soft focus to try to hide how old she looked.

Or Marlon Brando in _Apocalypse Now_.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3127 "2024-10-30T11:02:36Z")

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“We would’ve taken over western Europe"

> **[Trump: ‘We would've taken over western Europe’ if I'd been re-elected](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2669522297/)**
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> Former President Donald Trump said Tuesday night that if he had been reelected in 2020, the United States “would’ve taken over western Europe,” a remarkable suggestion that did not prompt a follow-up question from a Fox News interviewer.The moment...

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3128 "2024-10-30T13:55:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “We would’ve taken over western Europe"

Remembering that for him, “we” includes Putin.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3129 "2024-10-30T17:12:35Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “We would’ve taken over western Europe"

Forget it Donnie, you couldn’t even get Greenland.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3130 "2024-10-30T18:17:20Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “Who would want transgender operations for everyone in the world? They want that.”

I thought it was “Transgender operations for some, miniature American flags for everyone else!”

> [@Smapti](#):
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> “A young man leaves for school and goes to school and the authority takes him over without parental consent and they do things to him that you don’t want to know about.”

I think he’s confusing schools with churches there.

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> “Every time I go outside I see someone from Puerto Rico. They give me a hug and a kiss”

Big strong Puerto Ricans, with tears in their eyes.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3131 "2024-10-30T20:14:41Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Big strong Puerto Ricans, with tears in their eyes

Because of the smell, I assume.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3132 "2024-10-30T20:15:45Z")

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Another day, another unexplained cancellation. Grandpa can’t do Saturdays, that’s when he needs to sleep for 16 hours to get over the comedown from the uppers.

> **[Trump abruptly cancels appearance at Penn State football game](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-penn-state-football-game/)**
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> In a surprise announcement, Donald Trump's campaign said the former president had canceled his appearance at a high-profile football game in Pennsylvania on Saturday.The Columbus-Dispatch reported Wednesday that Trump had abruptly decided not to...

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3133 "2024-10-30T20:18:30Z")

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It’s getting more clear every day that Trump is not well. How many “abrupt cancellations” are we at now?

One. Single. Time. that Harris does this, there will be headlines. Trump does it multiple times? Meh, Grandpa just needs his naptime and binky.

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