# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3214 "2024-11-01T05:42:54Z")

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“If Ronald Reagan came back from the dead at the height of Ronald Reagan, if he went to California to have a rally, he would 250–300 people in a ballroom. We have fifty, sixty, seventy, eighty, ninety, a hundred thousand people”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1852219097477714085>

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3215 "2024-11-01T08:58:09Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico”

According to Heather Cox Richardson, Trump “had to hold the rally at a private airplane hangar after city officials refused to rent the Albuquerque Convention Center to the campaign because it still owes Albuquerque almost $445,000 from a similar rally in 2019.”

(Richardson can be read on Facebook, Substack, or by subscribing to her daily emails, which is where I found this quote.)

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3216 "2024-11-01T09:02:25Z")

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That “Liz Cheney should be shot” stuff needs to be the main story through election day.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3217 "2024-11-01T09:15:02Z")

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She’ll be used to guns pointed at her face if she’s ever gone hunting with her dad.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3218 "2024-11-01T13:08:52Z")

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Tucker’s body language in each of those stills is telling. He looks like he has to eat a shit sandwich.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3219 "2024-11-01T13:14:11Z")

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oh my…

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3220 "2024-11-01T13:15:51Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Tucker’s body language in each of those stills is telling. He looks like he has to eat a shit sandwich.

Well, you are what you eat…

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3221 "2024-11-01T13:22:22Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Tucker’s body language in each of those stills is telling. He looks like he has to eat a shit sandwich.

I sometimes wonder about the members of the conservative media who publicly support trump-- your Carlsons, your Hannitys, et al. I suspect that few, if any of them, are actual true believers. Do they ever lie awake at night wondering how they got to this place, kissing the ass of a hateful megalomaniac sundowning moron and helping to further his destruction of our Democracy? Or do they just happily cash their paychecks while thinking “heh heh…suckers!”?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3222 "2024-11-01T13:27:37Z")

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Mostly the latter IMO.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3223 "2024-11-01T13:35:34Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> I sometimes wonder about the members of the conservative media who publicly support trump-- your Carlsons, your Hannitys, et al. I suspect that few, if any of them, are actual true believers. Do they ever lie awake at night wondering how they got to this place, kissing the ass of a hateful megalomaniac sundowning moron and helping to further his destruction of our Democracy? Or do they just happily cash their paychecks while thinking “heh heh…suckers!”?

I’m pretty sure Jesse Watters is a performance artist of some kind. When Trump got that infamous mug shot, Watters gushed over how “hard” Trump looked in the photo going on to say that while he was a die hard heterosexual man, Trump looked good. I believe you’re correct. Most of them aren’t true believers, they just don’t mind kissing Trump’s ass if it means filling their coffers.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3224 "2024-11-01T13:36:45Z")

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From the voluminous Discovery unearthed during the Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News Network lawsuit, we learned that at least a few conservative journalists (notably, [**Tucker Carlson**](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64886188)) really can’t stand Trump, _and_ that few, if any – at least at Fox – ever believed the 2020 election was stolen from Trump.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3225 "2024-11-01T13:48:15Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> …we learned that at least a few conservative journalists (notably, [**Tucker Carlson**](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64886188)) really can’t stand Trump, _and_ that few, if any – at least at Fox – ever believed the 2020 election was stolen from Trump.

Not surprising at all. As I said, I suspect that few, if any, of those conservative journalists are true believers. What I wonder about is how those journalists can stand to live with themselves, pretending to publicly admire, defend, and support the beliefs of a person they can’t stand, who they very well know is full of shit, and who they must realize is a real danger to this country if he’s reelected.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3226 "2024-11-01T14:28:57Z")

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Money. It’s one hell of a drug.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3227 "2024-11-01T14:35:46Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Money. It’s one hell of a drug

Yep, it gives them the hallucination that wealth will insulate them from the negative aspects of destroying American Democracy.

It’s like none of them have noticed how many oligarchs have fallen out of Russian windows these last ten years or so.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3228 "2024-11-01T14:58:01Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Yep, it gives them the hallucination that wealth will insulate them from the negative aspects of destroying American Democracy.

They think Trump’s fascism is as performative as their journalism. Half this country (including journalists and politicians who should know better) thinks this election is just professional wrestling style entertainment with no real consequences to real life.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3229 "2024-11-01T15:21:04Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Yep, it gives them the hallucination that wealth will insulate them from the negative aspects of destroying American Democracy.

And provides immunity from having their faces eaten by the leopards.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3230 "2024-11-01T15:23:50Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “we get hit from the enemy inside”

_November­verbrecher_, eh, Donald?

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3231 "2024-11-01T15:27:33Z")

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I don’t give a crap about Trump’s verbal gaffes. Verbal gaffes, like mispronunciation of words immediately followed by corrections (“crime wait, crime rate”), who gives a wet shit. Posts about these are just nonsense filler in this thread, IMO.

Posts about his self-aggrandizing are, IMO, baked into the votes. At this point everyone knows he’s self-aggrandizing, and either love him or hate him for it.

It’s the dangerous bigotry that I think should be highlighted, like when he’s lying about immigrants eating pets, or about schools performing surgery. And the stuff where he’s talking about political opponents and how they’re the enemy, or should have guns in their faces? We need to be emphasizing how dangerous and unamerican this is.

less verbal gaffes, more highlighting his incitements to violence.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3232 "2024-11-01T15:28:38Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Half this country (including journalists and politicians who should know better) thinks this election is just professional wrestling style entertainment with no real consequences to real life

And that POV is not something that new, either. Been hearing the “it’s all a play, the real people pulling the strings want to make us think this counts” line virtually all my life. Only at one time that was ostensibly the position of the radical fringe. Now, yeah, it may represent the plurality.

> [@Horatius](#):
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> > [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> > Money. It’s one hell of a drug
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> Yep, it gives them the hallucination that wealth will insulate them from the negative aspects

On the RW environment, I seem to notice a pervasive sense (probably influenced by Tribulationist theology) that the Collapse is inevitable any day now, and your alternatives depending on your class are to become rich enough, or armed enough, that you make it to the other side of it.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3233 "2024-11-01T15:30:08Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Do they ever lie awake at night wondering how they got to this place, kissing the ass of a hateful megalomaniac sundowning moron and helping to further his destruction of our Democracy?

No, they sleep soundly encased in silk sheets, dreaming of the money rolling in.

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