# Is Trump confused? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 163
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3274 "2024-11-02T03:07:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > he’s implying that he has “more Greek in him” because he’s white, isn’t he? Mmmmaybe. 😉 It could well be an anti-immigrant dog whistle: “Greece is a perfectly nice white country, and here’s this guy that they say is Greek. He doesn’t look Greek.” ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3275 "2024-11-02T03:11:14Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Don’t worry, I know what you meant 😉 Jesus. I’m not sure what I meant. It’s late and I should get to bed. I’m also going to suspect my presidential campaign immediately. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3276 "2024-11-02T03:20:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > …he’s implying that he has “more Greek in him” because he’s white, isn’t he? No, he is stating that he has the same amount of Greek in him. I see zero confusion in his racist statement about the basketball player. Conservatives of the Trumpist sort are fascinated by clear racial lines and lack thereof. Trump is riffing off that. It is a little like his unconfused riffs on Harris not really being Black. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3277 "2024-11-02T03:27:33Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I see zero confusion in his racist statement about the basketball player. Although I don’t agree with your overall premise that Trump is not suffering a significant mental decline, I think you are correct in this instance. Trump is saying that Antetokounmpo isn’t really Greek because his parents are Nigerian. And logically it follows that Harris isn’t really American, because her parents were Indian and Jamaican. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3278 "2024-11-02T03:27:56Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > No, he is stating that he has the same amount of Greek in him. I see zero confusion in his racist statement about the basketball player. Counterpoint: Trump ALWAYS believes that he is/has more of anything than anyone else. I can easily see him believing that he must be part Greek because, in his tiny little head where everyone and everything is defined by racial stereotypes, he associates Greekness with masculinity (Aristotle Onassis was Greek, after all, and he married Jackie Kennedy, who was the most beautiful First Lady ever before Melania, right?), and he’s the manliest man who ever manned, therefore he must have some Greek in him. There’s a solid chance that the only reason he’s never claimed to be part black is because he’s never heard the “black guys have bigger dicks” meme. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3279 "2024-11-02T03:45:02Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > … he associates Greekness with masculinity (Aristotle Onassis was Greek, after all, and he married Jackie Kennedy, who was the most beautiful First Lady ever before Melania, right?), and he’s the manliest man who ever manned, therefore he must have some Greek in him. Don’t forget Hercules. He’d make a great Hercules. “Don, the Aegean stables are long gone, so you can clean out Santa Anita’s …” ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3280 "2024-11-02T03:50:31Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > he associates Greekness with masculinity You know what Zeus said: “You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a god, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3281 "2024-11-02T03:52:18Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > he’s never heard the “black guys have bigger dicks” meme. If he had then certainly ~~Tiger Woods~~ Arnold Palmer would be the greatest Black golfer ever. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3282 "2024-11-02T05:01:53Z")
Never mind. I was replying to a post way too far upthread. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3283 "2024-11-02T05:22:37Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I almost always understand what he meant. I say that about my dog. He communicates with me and I almost always understand what he means. Sometimes I don’t have a clue. I wouldn’t endorse him for president, same as I wouldn’t for an adult that I say “I almost always understand what he means”. Trump’s brain is going downhill rapidly. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3284 "2024-11-02T07:16:51Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > If you _almost always_ understand what he meant then, by definition, Trump is not expressing himself coherently. As a consumate salesman, Trump has the ability to say just enough that a listener can project their own beliefs onto him. A dozen people can listen to Trump and come away convinced that they understood what he meant, and that he agrees with them. None of the dozen will agree with each other about what Trump meant, though. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3285 "2024-11-02T11:21:35Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > You know what Zeus said: “You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a god, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.” Ha! Little would he know that Zeus also grabbed quite a few prepubescent penises. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3286 "2024-11-02T12:00:46Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I say that about my dog. He communicates with me and I almost always understand what he means. Sometimes I don’t have a clue. I wouldn’t endorse him for president… Not so fast. What’s his position on forced transgender bottom surgery on children? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3287 "2024-11-02T12:36:26Z")
I’m going to guess he doesn’t care what people do with their bottoms as long as he gets to sniff them. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3288 "2024-11-02T12:39:20Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I say that about my dog. He communicates with me and I almost always understand what he means. Sometimes I don’t have a clue. I wouldn’t endorse him for president If the election were between Trump and your dog, I know which one I would vote for. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3289 "2024-11-02T12:49:26Z")
He’s no [Thor Michaelson](https://www.seattlepi.com/elections/article/Shoreline-dog-gains-internet-fame-with-no-to-10602072.php) but I’d consider voting for him. Meanwhile, Trump’s comments about pointing guns at Liz Cheney have earned him yet another law enforcement investigation: > **[Arizona top prosecutor investigating Trump’s comments about ‘gunfire’](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/2/arizona-top-prosecutor-investigating-trumps-comments-about-gunfire)** > > Former president’s comments about Liz Cheney described as ‘deeply troubling’. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3290 "2024-11-02T13:04:47Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > BTW, has Trump ever insulted DICK Cheney for his Harris support? Dick isn’t appearing with Harris (a good choice by the Dems), although it is surprising Trump has held fire. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3291 "2024-11-02T14:08:24Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > although it is surprising Trump has held fire. He knows Dick returns fire. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3292 "2024-11-02T14:16:59Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > BTW, has Trump ever insulted DICK Cheney for his Harris support? Trump on [Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113093196894480530): > [@](#): > > Dick Cheney is an irrelevant RINO . . . He’s the King of Endless, Nonsensical Wars, wasting Lives and Trillions of Dollars, just like Comrade Kamala Harris. I am the Peace President, and only I will stop World War III! By the way, the Peace President was [in favor of the Iraq invasion](https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politics/donald-trump-howard-stern-iraq-war/index.html). More on the Peace President: [Afghanistan’s Rising Civilian Death Toll Due to Airstrikes, 2017 - 2020](https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/papers/2020/AirstrikesAfghanistan) But – no confusion. Don is an appeaser in Europe and hawk in the rest of the world. Do not mistake his telegraphic rhetorical style for confusion. P.S. Why is he only an appeaser of Russia? Because bullies shy away from strong opponents. I expect him to go all out against the Houthis because they seem, at least at first glance, weak. It will be a little like Reagan attacking Grenada, although Trump is so much worse than Reagan. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3293 "2024-11-02T14:18:19Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > When get complained about how Obama was running show I knew he meant Biden. I know a full-on Trump cultist. According to her, Obama has been President for the past four years; not officially, of course, but as the leader of the Deep State that is the actual government. (Also, Trump actually won the election, and Biden is actually dead.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=162) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=164)