# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3314 "2024-11-03T00:03:38Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> So… For the people whowere actually in attendance at that rally… What exactly did they take away from that?

They loved it. Thought it was the most amazing speech ever.  
There’s nobody at one of those rallies who isn’t going to vote for trump. He could say that they should all go vote for Harris, and they would still vote for him.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3315 "2024-11-03T00:07:32Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> They loved it. Thought it was the most amazing speech ever.  
> There’s nobody at one of those rallies who isn’t going to vote for trump.

I’ve seen post-rally interviews with attendees who said they’ve decided to vote for Harris now. There are the devoted fans who follow Trump from rally to rally in their RVs like the world’s saddest Grateful Dead tour, but I think a majority of the attendees have to be locals who are just curious or are at most casual Republicans who don’t pay much attention to politics, and some of them are definitely being turned off by what they’re hearing or we wouldn’t be seeing video after video of people leaving in droves while he’s still talking.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3316 "2024-11-03T00:21:26Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> At no point in that “weave” does he ever explain why he keeps mentioning Hannibal Lecter.

That’s because the transcrption cut out the explaination. Where the ellipses are, he explained that foreign countries are sending over people like Hannibal Lector when they empty their insane asylums. It is in the video.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3317 "2024-11-03T00:22:08Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Where the ellipses are, he explained that foreign countries are sending over people like Hannibal Lector when they empty their insane asylums.

He still doesn’t understand that political asylum and insane asylum don’t mean the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3318 "2024-11-03T00:31:29Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> some of them are definitely being turned off by what they’re hearing or we wouldn’t be seeing video after video of people leaving in droves while he’s still talking.

On that note;

> <https://x.com/Fritschner/status/1852852176416043402>

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3319 "2024-11-03T00:36:15Z")

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I see a couple of people in garbage man cosplay.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3320 "2024-11-03T00:39:13Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> hat’s because the transcrption cut out the explaination. Where the ellipses are, he explained that foreign countries are sending over people like Hannibal Lector when they empty their insane asylums. It is in the video.

[And yet](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-hannibal-lecter-timeline-1235070008/):

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> “I said, that’s _Silence of the Lamb_ [sic]. You know what that is? Has anybody seen _Silence of the Lambs_ ? Hannibal Lecter, how great an actor was he? You know why I like him? Because he said on television, or one of the — ‘I love Donald Trump.; So I love him, I love him.”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3321 "2024-11-03T00:46:54Z")

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The best explanation I’ve seen for that is that the guy who played Lecter on TV (one of the Skarsgards?) said something in an interview like “I can understand why people find Trump appealing” and he took that as an endorsement, but it’s still fundamentally weird.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3322 "2024-11-03T00:49:04Z")

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In the Rolling Stone article that quote is from, they speculate he confused Hopkins with Jon Voight who _did_ say “I love Donald Trump”.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3323 "2024-11-03T00:49:51Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> he confused Hopkins with Jon Voight

Who the hell could possibly confuse those two?

Oh, wait, I just remembered who we’re talking about.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3324 "2024-11-03T00:56:10Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> the guy who played Lecter on TV (one of the Skarsgards?)

Mads Mikkelsen.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3325 "2024-11-03T01:45:52Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Who the hell could possibly confuse those two?

Well, one of them was Tom Cruise’s boss in a MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE movie, while the other — hey, wait a minute.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3326 "2024-11-03T02:27:05Z")

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> [@bobsmom101](#):
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> Since SCOTUS is firmly in the Trumpiverse, I don’t think there will be any illegal actions.

Not so. In 2021 they refused to hear his “fixed election” claims. So far the biggest helping hand has been _limited Immunity,_ and we dont know if a previous president might have got the same deal- trump is the first who wanted or needed it (Nixon left more or less quietly).

> [@Smapti](#):
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> Which is why Trump is wrapping up his second term right now, right?

Right.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> To be clear, you mean that SCOTUS will find that no matter how much what is done offends the obvious intent of current written law, somehow that will be deemed legal.

Because they overturned the 2020 election based up his request, right?

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3327 "2024-11-03T03:01:55Z")

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“We have had the biggest rallies in history of any country, and every rally is full. You do not have any seats that are empty. You did not have anything.”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1852885030433128806>

“Could you do something with the handle of that chair, could you do something? Like what, sir? Ding ding, ding ding ding ding, psh, it’s like a piece of art”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1852900907325002003>

“I consider myself to be the father of fertilization” (Waiter, I’m afraid I’ve lost my appetite)

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1852885740059034031>

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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3328 "2024-11-03T03:02:55Z")

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You and @Smapti have a lot more faith in the integrity of the majority of the Supremes.

IMO, SCOTUS didn’t overturn the 2020 results because the cases were so patently bogus. I expect MAGA to be better organized this time around. I hope I’m wrong.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3329 "2024-11-03T03:14:46Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Don’t forget Hercules. He’d make a great Hercules.
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> “Don, the Aegean stables are long gone, so you can clean out Santa Anita’s …”

That might explain where this “drain the swamp” schtick comes from though…

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3330 "2024-11-03T03:17:39Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> (Also, Trump actually won the election, and Biden is actually dead.)

If anyone is going to pull a weekend at Bernie’s, I would have guessed Sanders.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3331 "2024-11-03T03:29:48Z")

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Trump had a rally in Salem, VA……suddenly declaring that he thinks he has a chance in VA.

But I have a suspicion that there was another reason. I’m thinking that they meant to book a venue in Winston-Salem NC and fucked up, 4 Seasons style. All the blathering about VA being the newest swing state was just cover for their incompetence.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3332 "2024-11-03T03:34:19Z")

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> [@bobsmom101](#):
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> IMO, SCOTUS didn’t overturn the 2020 results because the cases were so patently bogus.

You dont think they will be bogus this time around?

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3333 "2024-11-03T03:35:18Z")

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> [@bobsmom101](#):
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> You and @Smapti have a lot more faith in the integrity of the majority of the Supremes.

Not faith. Just an understanding of realpolitk. As much as the conservatives on the Court may favor Trump’s policies, they know that if they help him become a dictator they’ll be making themselves obsolete. If it comes down to it, they’ll choose to preserve their own power over enabling him.

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