# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3354 "2024-11-03T22:24:40Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Clearly she should have thrown paper towel rolls at them.

If she had, there’d be a Bounty on some of their heads.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3355 "2024-11-03T22:41:24Z")

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A little verbal oddity about Trump (not sure which thread to put it in…). He uses the phrase “low IQ” to describe everybody he doesn’t like, which is such an odd turn of phrase. Did his mother imprint upon him in his youth that it’s rude to call people “stupid”, and that stuck with him? (and nothing else did?)

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3356 "2024-11-03T22:59:28Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> He uses the phrase “low IQ” to describe everybody he doesn’t like, which is such an odd turn of phrase. Did his mother imprint upon him in his youth that it’s rude to call people “stupid”, and that stuck with him?

Like he would have learned anything?

Now that you bring it up, I’ll bet his father hurled that at him growing up, so now it’s ingrained, and the ultimate insult.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3357 "2024-11-03T23:27:14Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> He uses the phrase “low IQ” to describe everybody he doesn’t like, which is such an odd turn of phrase.

Because “stupid” isn’t quantifiable and “low I.Q.” is (to him). He’s all about numbers. Of course, he has no idea what number a low (or high) I.Q. is or he would use it. “Low” has to do that work for him.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3358 "2024-11-03T23:27:32Z")

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Now he’s talking about how Al Capone would have murdered the MyPillow guy for making shitty pillows.

Trump is exhausted and his brain has turned to pudding.

> **[Trump heaps praise on 'lovely' Al Capone — says he would kill Mike Lindell...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mike-lindell-2669569136/)**
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> Former President Donald Trump waxed poetical about hit jobs during a campaign rally where he praised Al Capone and theorized how the notorious gangster would have killed Mike Lindell. Trump told the crowd in North Carolina Sunday afternoon about what...

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3359 "2024-11-03T23:27:56Z")

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I was kindof expecting him to dress as Peanut, the squirrel everyones talking about.

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3360 "2024-11-03T23:29:29Z")

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Speaking of “no empty seats”.

> **[Julian Klappenbach (@jklappenbach) on Threads](https://www.threads.net/@jklappenbach/post/DB5eE7ctkup)**
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> When Trump lies that there's no empty seats, a cameraman goes rogue.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3361 "2024-11-03T23:35:57Z")

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> [@duality72](#):
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> Speaking of “no empty seats”.

Holy shit that is beautiful. Please let those empty seats and people walking out be indicative of his deteriorating support come Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3362 "2024-11-03T23:37:42Z")

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My theory of the case:

No town can host a Trump rally and a ‘professional wrestling’ match on the same day. Too much competition for the same demographic.

Meanwhile … across town…

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3363 "2024-11-03T23:41:39Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I appreciate you posting the link (though 22 hours later it doesn’t link to the actual article, but just to the first couple of paragraphs plus instructions to purchase a NYT subscription).

That’s odd, I’m seeing the full article when I copy the link into a different browser in which I am not logged into the _New York Times_ website. Not sure why it’s not working for you. Maybe try clearing your browser cookies?

> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I’m curious: does McWhorter ever address the topic of Trump’s obvious physical and lexical _changes_ from his performances in 2016?

Well, he does say:

> [@John McWhorter in The New York Times](#):
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> …Everything we’re seeing more of in Trump — the cussing, the going on too long almost as if seeking a better high, the exaggerating, the recreational name-calling, the references to genitals — makes sense as someone turning up the volume to keep himself entertained. His audiences have remained loyal, so it’s not them he’s worried about; this is about what’s in his own head.
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> … People close to 80 are never who they were at 45, but the difference between Trump then and Trump now strikes me as pretty ordinary.

He then concludes with the quote I made previously:

> [@John McWhorter in The New York Times](#):
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> … My fear is that Trump in office would be perfectly and horrifically sane and more or less stay that way for his whole term. What many see of late as crazy is just him champing at the bit to get into office so that he can use it for his mentally maleficent ends.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3364 "2024-11-04T00:34:39Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Now he’s talking about how Al Capone would have murdered the MyPillow guy for making shitty pillows.

Did I miss some drama between them? I thought Lindell was one of Trump’s only friends and one of his staunchest supporters. Fuck Mike Lindell on general principal but why is he catching strays here?

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3365 "2024-11-04T01:32:43Z")

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Probably a metaphor there about every cartoonish Bond Villain who executes his senior henchmen for incompetence.

IOW, trump is a Bond Villain in his own mind and Lindell is a failed senior henchman who has brought scorn, not praise, to the glory that is trump. And so deserves to be executed. ~~Dr. Evil~~ Al Capone style.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3366 "2024-11-04T01:35:19Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Now he’s talking about how Al Capone would have murdered the MyPillow guy for making shitty pillows.

I haven’t done extensive research on Al Capone or anything, but I was never under the impression that he was particularly capricious when it came to killing people. i.e. If he killed someone it was because it was for business related reasons not because he looked at Capone funny or something. I don’t mean to imply Capone wasn’t ruthless, but so long as you stayed out of his way you were probably fine or just an unlucky bystander.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3367 "2024-11-04T01:35:55Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> I haven’t done extensive research on Al Capone or anything

And I’m certain that Trump hasn’t, either. 😉

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3368 "2024-11-04T02:05:46Z")

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“A whistleblower released the information on the 18 on the 800,000 cobs plus.”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1853252098906845620>

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3369 "2024-11-04T02:10:06Z")

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What is he hiding with that hat? Is his face literally melting off?

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3370 "2024-11-04T02:12:50Z")

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He’s been doing three rallies a day every day for the last week and he has four tomorrow. He’s exhausted and he’s trying to hide it.

I frankly wouldn’t be surprised if he passes out onstage.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3371 "2024-11-04T02:19:22Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> He’s been doing three rallies a day every day for the last week and he has four tomorrow.

And this is a guy who was only doing one or two rallies a _week_ until a couple of weeks ago.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3372 "2024-11-04T02:37:27Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “A whistleblower released the information on the 18 on the 800,000 cobs plus.”

This is what he said after that.

“There were not 800 thousand and 18 thousand and then you add em up and add 100 thousand, think about it 112 thousand.”

SEE, now it makes sense.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3373 "2024-11-04T02:43:32Z")

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Forget the math. What is the “18 on the 800,000 cobs plus”?

Is he talking about corncobs? And if so, _why_?

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