# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3374 "2024-11-04T02:45:10Z")

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Clearly the answer is “14 k of g in a f p d”.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3375 "2024-11-04T02:45:49Z")

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Sadly, I can guess roughly what he is saying. I am unaware of the backstory, but someone (perhaps in the Department of Labor) must have questioned the recent jobs statistics and said, "they are overstated [by some #, probably something that has an 800 in it]. The Right must have jumped on this as proof that any positive stats coming out of the White House are false.

I’d be surprised if that is not approximately correct.

Ah, [here is something](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-jobs-conspiracy/) from Raw Story that might explain it a little. Although the cite is from August, so maybe not. (Or maybe … Trump is confused?)

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3376 "2024-11-04T02:54:03Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I frankly wouldn’t be surprised if he passes out onstage.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he passes _away_ onstage.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3377 "2024-11-04T02:55:22Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Clearly the answer is “14 k of g in a f p d”.

That’s what I was wondering. Has Trump finally solved this years-old brain stumper?

Naw. For him solving anything is too much work.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3378 "2024-11-04T03:01:34Z")

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Watch the audience behind him in this clip. They are all utterly bored, except possibly for the black garbage man, who nods at one point maybe in agreement or maybe falling asleep. Most of them are looking all around for some reason.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3379 "2024-11-04T03:03:56Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> This is what he said after that.
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> “There were not 800 thousand and 18 thousand and then you add em up and add 100 thousand, think about it 112 thousand.”

“Think about it” is one of Trump’s tells. It means he’s realized that he isn’t making sense.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3380 "2024-11-04T03:16:57Z")

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Nancy Pelosi seems to be on the Trump is confused side:

[Pelosi says Trump’s brain is “deteriorating”](https://www.yahoo.com/news/somethings-very-wrong-pelosi-says-211217075.html)

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> [Trump] pointed to three sides and then noted that there was an area where he wasn’t behind glass. He pointed to the nearby media section and remarked that any would-be assassin would have to “shoot through” the journalists to get to him.
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> “All we really have over here is the fake news, right? And to get me somebody would have to shoot through the fake news,” Trump [said](https://x.com/atrupar/status/1853118205104918839). “And I don’t mind that so much.”
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> In her interview with Psaki, Pelosi said that Trump’s comments were the mark of a man in decline.

I do not see any connection between making death threats and mental deterioration. Lots of younger criminals make death threats. And the complex nature of the threat, what with the claim that the reporters were located at a gap in the bulletproof barrier coverage, is somewhat clever. I think this demagogue is going to be with us for many years yet.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3381 "2024-11-04T03:37:01Z")

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Trump’s latest campaign promise is to put a CTE-afflicted failed political candidate famous for flashing a toy badge and pretending to be a cop in charge of (checks notes) Intercontinental ballistic missile defense.

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1853261831382728835>

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3382 "2024-11-04T03:55:42Z")

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I hope SNL is already working on a skit.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3383 "2024-11-04T04:35:25Z")

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So where did the whole Al Capone thing come from? Something must have prompted that in his little pea brain. And why is he calling him by his full first name Alphonse?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3384 "2024-11-04T04:35:36Z")

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If things go as it looks like they’re going to, next week will be the last time SNL ever makes a sketch about him.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3385 "2024-11-04T04:49:39Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump’s latest campaign promise is to put a CTE-afflicted failed political candidate famous for flashing a toy badge and pretending to be a cop in charge of (checks notes) Intercontinental ballistic missile defense.

Should obviously go with Deion Sanders instead. You want a cornerback for missile defense, not a running back. Doesn’t Trump know anything?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3386 "2024-11-04T05:06:06Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “[Polls showing me losing] is called suppression. They suppress. And it actually should be illegal.”

They will be- if he wins.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> “Those licenses should be bid out”

Yep, another threat- if he wins, network  
TV will become Fox & Friends.

> [@jsc1953](#):
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> A little verbal oddity about Trump (not sure which thread to put it in…). He uses the phrase “low IQ” to describe everybody he doesn’t like, which is such an odd turn of phrase. Did his mother imprint upon him in his youth that it’s rude to call people “stupid”, and that stuck with him? (and nothing else did?)

IIRC, he calls people stupid all the time.

> **[Trump calls Biden 'stupid' and Harris 'dumb as a rock' at Arizona campaign event](https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-calls-biden-stupid-and-harris-dumb-as-a-rock-at-arizona-campaign-event-223258693743)**
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> Former President Donald Trump used derogatory terms to describe President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris during a campaign event in Arizona. Trump, sitting in a chair next to right-wing media personality Tucker Carlson for what was billed as...

> [@Spoons](#):
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> That’s what I was wondering. Has Trump finally solved this years-old brain stumper?

IIRC the poster did a flyby and never came back. Clearly he got it wrong somehow.

> [@needscoffee](#):
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> So where did the whole Al Capone thing come from? Something must have prompted that in his little pea brain. And why is he calling him by his full first name Alphonse?

A mark of respect for an even bigger criminal. 🤪

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3387 "2024-11-04T05:34:08Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> So where did the whole Al Capone thing come from? Something must have prompted that in his little pea brain. And why is he calling him by his full first name Alphonse?

He found out a while back that he has been indicted more times than Al. He talks about it occasionally to prove he is a tough guy. Why Alphonse? Who knows?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3388 "2024-11-04T05:37:30Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Why Alphonse?

He only found out a few months ago that Al was short for something, so he assumes nobody else knew it either and thinks he’s showing off how smart and knowledgeable he is.

You know, like a first grader who just found out that peanuts are a kind of legume and not true nuts.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3389 "2024-11-04T05:53:39Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Forget the math. What is the “18 on the 800,000 cobs plus”?
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> Is he talking about corncobs? And if so, _why_?

It’s total word salad, but he meant to say **jobs**. Still don’t know what he’s talking about, though.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3390 "2024-11-04T13:39:40Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump: We will build a missile defense shield… We’ll put Herschel Walker in charge of that little sucker

Oh, _ **great** _ idea. How about, let’s see…Dr. Phil for Surgeon General. Mike Lindell for Secretary of the Treasury. Marjorie Taylor Green for Secretary of Defense, since she knows so much about space lasers.

Ah, I give up-- I can’t even come up with a joke answer more ridiculous than the idea of putting Herschel Walker in charge of building a missile defense shield. I don’t envy the Onion’s writers.

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> [@solost](#):
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> I can’t even come up with a joke answer more ridiculous than the idea of putting Herschel Walker in charge of building a missile defense shield.

Step Two is putting the missile defense shield in charge of building a Herschel Walker!

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3392 "2024-11-04T14:16:22Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> I do not see any connection between making death threats and mental deterioration.

A connection could certainly exist, though.

> **[Loss of inhibitions and dementia](https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptons/losing-inhibitions)**
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> Sometimes a person with dementia can lose their inhibitions and may behave in ways that others find embarrassing.

One high profile example with more than one instance:

> **[George H.W. Bush Responds To Groping Allegations](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/26/560148936/george-h-w-bush-acknowledges-groping-multiple-women)**
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> The former president "has patted women's rears in what he intended to be a good-natured manner," his spokesman wrote. Actress Heather Lind wrote that Bush "sexually assaulted" her.

> “We all circled around him and Barbara for a photo, and I was right next to him,” Grolnick told the website. "He reached his right hand around to my behind, and as we smiled for the photo he asked the group, ‘Do you want to know who my favorite magician is?’ As I felt his hand dig into my flesh, he said, ‘David Cop-a-Feel!’ "

I do not believe a younger GHW Bush would have done this.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3393 "2024-11-04T14:36:27Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> > [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> > I do not see any connection between making death threats and mental deterioration.
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> A connection could certainly exist, though.
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> [Loss of inhibitions and dementia | Alzheimer's Society](https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptons/losing-inhibitions)

I also wonder if loss of inhibition, and judgement in general, due to mental deterioration could be contributing to his increasingly ridiculous lies. I mean, yes, he’s always lied outrageously, but during this election cycle his lies have just become nutballs kookoo: “6 states allow abortion after birth; schools are giving children transgender operations without their parents’ consent; Venezuelan gangs with weapons more powerful than even the US military have seen are terrorizing a town in Colorado; etc. etc.”

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