# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3434 "2024-11-05T02:43:23Z")

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Trump’s closing message is “Obama spied on my campaign in 2016”.

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1853613267819651488>

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3435 "2024-11-05T02:58:25Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump’s closing message

They finally allowed Eric and Junior to show up.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3436 "2024-11-05T03:41:07Z")

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Someone should really tell him that “The Airing of the Grievances" is next month.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3437 "2024-11-05T05:53:29Z")

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> <https://x.com/kelsientaggart/status/1853674237879316692>
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> Acyn @Acyn

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1853672420634489138>

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3438 "2024-11-05T06:26:02Z")

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“People say ‘groceries,’ right? I haven’t used tha-- it’s such a sort of an old term.”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1853678126280179793>

“We don’t want you negotiating luclear deals”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1853682369519132786>

“I stopped the wars with my being volatile. Nobody had a war.”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1853677638268657885>

“Go out today and vote at, I guess, 7 o’clock, or whatever time it is. It doesn’t matter.”

> <https://x.com/kelsientaggart/status/1853681916106485920>

“Then inside the Lincoln bedroom, the bedroom of Abraham Lincoln, his wife, son Tad who died actually, very young boy, rough time for them. They were suffering tremendous melancholia. Not depression. It’s the same thing” (Tad Lincoln died in 1871)

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1853679976979276019>

“That’s where I really got see the real Musk… he always like in a lab. He started doing jumping jacks behind me. I think he’s going to run for office against me”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1853681194619310470>

“He won the big case today too. He won the case. I don’t know what he was doing. Something with lotteries. He’s in a different – he’s amazing. Lotteries, this, that, makes your life fun. He’s usually in the lab. All of a sudden he’s escaped the lab”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1853675818255573331>

“I like to brand. I like to brand things like I brand Pocahontas and I a lot of branding. I’m one of the greater branders in the world. A lot of them were Republicans, they’re all now friends of mine”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1853678708172968292>

“Right here in Detroit” (he’s in Grand Rapids)

> <https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1853679099341942948>

And since this (thank God) is the last campaign rally Trump will ever throw, I don’t think we could go out on a better note than this;

“If I lose, I will only have you to blame”

> <https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1853672560480661886>

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3439 "2024-11-05T07:06:49Z")

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Each of the Acyn threads (and thanks to @Smapti for posting them) I read, I always add a (crowd cheers) to the end of them mentally. That’s the thing. Every one of these dumbass blatherings are supported.

I’m in LA County. Plenty of people here tell me “I don’t get it “ No. I don’t get how this is a decent presidential candidate. Am I not getting how he’s being funny? Elusive? Elite? The answers go up and down from there.

(Listening to “Fear” trilogy by Rush now. No, “Freeze” from Vapor Trails doesn’t count. )

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3440 "2024-11-05T07:24:35Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> And since this (thank God) is the last campaign rally Trump will ever throw …

The last campaign rally, yes; but I’m not so sure that he’s done with holding rallies.

If he loses, he will likely hold rallies complaining, and urging supporters to ask for recounts, look for video of suitcases full of Harris ballots being trucked in after polls close, and, oh, what the hell, looking for bamboo fibers in the ballot paper. He won’t concede, but he can only carry on this fight if you donate.

If he wins, he will likely hold rallies patting himself on the back, thanking his supporters, talking about what he will do on Day 1, and wondering why he can’t get started sooner. “Maybe we should rewrite that pesky Constitution that prevents me from getting started sooner, what do you say?” Oh, and donate, so he can continue his legal battles, at least until Inauguration Day.

At any rate, even though they may not be campaign rallies, he will hold more rallies. His ego, and his wallet, need them.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3441 "2024-11-05T07:33:16Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> (Listening to “Fear” trilogy by Rush now.)

I opened up my music shuffle on the way home from work and the first song up was “Changes” by Tupac Shakur. It’s one of his posthumous releases, which samples “The Way It Is” by Bruce Hornsby, and includes the lyric “And although it seems heaven sent, we ain’t ready to see a black president”.

I hope that’s not an omen.

Meanwhile, Trump’s last rally finally wrapped up at 1:51 AM local time. When political scientists write the post-mortem of this election, I believe they’ll argue that keeping an audience of mostly senior citizens in a swing state up until 2 in the morning the night before the election was not a good move.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3442 "2024-11-05T08:08:27Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> It doesn’t faze them because Trump’s supporters are the crazier person ranting on a street corner

It’s hard to get elected that way, when the other guy is giving it away for free.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/iLt9DUnWeoY/hqdefault.jpg "The Simpsons - That Guy's Giving It Away For Free") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLt9DUnWeoY)

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3443 "2024-11-05T08:12:29Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> As has been discussed before, he’s probably never before eaten a MickeyD french fry that was less than 20 minutes old after being delivered to his penthouse

Yep, that was my theory, and this just supports it even more. He’ll be ranting about how he makes the best fires for the rest of his life!

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3444 "2024-11-05T08:15:16Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> Someone should really tell him that “The Airing of the Grievances" is next month

No way he celebrates Festivus; he’d lose all the Feats of Strength.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3445 "2024-11-05T08:21:42Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> “Maybe we should rewrite that pesky Constitution that prevents me from getting started sooner, what do you say?”

That actually wouldn’t be a bad idea. The whole “lame duck” period in US elections is just bizarre. “Okay, you lost the election, but we’re going to let you retain power for several months, and actually pass laws and shit that still have actual, legal effects.”

That’s just nuts, and has been exploited several times in recent memory, so that Republican State legislators can pass laws to hamstring the newly elected Democratic governors.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3446 "2024-11-05T08:38:44Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Yep, that was my theory, and this just supports it even more. He’ll be ranting about how he makes the best **fires** for the rest of his life!

Based off of his presidency, he makes them in dumpsters.

(Bolding in quote mine for emphasis)

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3447 "2024-11-05T10:27:46Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> That actually wouldn’t be a bad idea. The whole “lame duck” period in US elections is just bizarre.

Hey, let the horse take its time sauntering from the president-elect’s plantation in Virginia (or townhouse in Boston) to the capital over in Philadelphia. What, you expect the poor thing to _gallop_ the whole way? You are just cruel!

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3448 "2024-11-05T12:12:45Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> the Acyn threads (and thanks to @Smapti for posting them)

Seconded! Thank you, @Smapti, for presenting us with dozens of WTF moments from the Trump rallies, in a format that we could stomach. For me, it was an essential part of the 2024 campaign coverage!

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3449 "2024-11-05T14:33:09Z")

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> [@Chad\_Sudan](#):
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> For me, it was an essential part of the 2024 campaign coverage!

Same here! Thanks, @Smapti!

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3450 "2024-11-05T15:24:00Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> I’m in LA County. Plenty of people here tell me “I don’t get it “

In my experience, conservatives in Greater L.A. are few in number. But you get into the AV…

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3451 "2024-11-05T15:31:22Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> But you get into the AV…

For those just tuning in …

> **[Antelope Valley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antelope_Valley)**
>
> The Antelope Valley is located in northern Los Angeles County, California, United States, and the southeast portion of California's Kern County, and constitutes the western tip of the Mojave Desert. It is situated between the Tehachapi, Sierra Pelona, and the San Gabriel Mountains. The valley was named for the pronghorns that roamed there until they were all eliminated in the 1880s, mostly by hunting, or resettled in other areas. The principal cities in the Antelope Valley are Palmda The Antel...

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> For those just tuning in …

Sorry about that. Didn’t mean to sidetrack.

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i was at the philly rally. the line to get in took over 2 hours. didn’t get home until after midnight.

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