# Is Trump confused? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 172
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3454 "2024-11-05T16:51:29Z")
On the flip side, Trump was over two hours late to his rally in Grand Rapids, which didn’t even _start_ until after midnight. Finally wrapped up after 2am. Hoping many of the attendees will be too tired to vote today. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3455 "2024-11-05T17:05:18Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > He’ll be ranting about how he makes the best fires for the rest of his life! If that was all he did I’d be okay with that. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3456 "2024-11-05T18:34:58Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > On the flip side, Trump was over two hours late to his rally in Grand Rapids, which didn’t even _start_ until after midnight. Finally wrapped up after 2am. > > Hoping many of the attendees will be too tired to vote today. Too bad he didn’t leave them all stranded 5 miles from the parking lot. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3457 "2024-11-05T20:30:45Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Right here in Detroit” (he’s in Grand Rapids) See, that is a perfect example of a double standard- if Biden had said that, that would be tossed around as proof he is senile and has to drop out. Here it is just one doddering insane comment after another. > [@Horatius](#): > > That actually wouldn’t be a bad idea. The whole “lame duck” period in US elections is just bizarre. When, exactly is the election over? What with challenges and recounts, it can take a while before it is official. It used to be March, iirc when the new president took office. > [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > Seconded! Thank you, @Smapti, for presenting us with dozens of WTF moments from the Trump rallies, in a format that we could stomach. For me, it was an essential part of the 2024 campaign coverage! I concur. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3458 "2024-11-05T21:01:54Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > See, that is a perfect example of a double standard- if Biden had said that, that would be tossed around as proof he is senile and has to drop out. Here it is just one doddering insane comment after another. When MAGA points to Biden’s gaffes it isn’t out of a genuine concern that our leader might be senile. They’re just trying to score points and the prizes are sweet, sweet liberal tears. They don’t care about double standards because they’re not playing the same game the rest of us are. Like most facist, they expect the rules to be used against their opponents while they themselves do not have to follow them. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3459 "2024-11-05T21:08:09Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > “Right here in Detroit” (he’s in Grand Rapids) > > See, that is a perfect example of a double standard- if Biden had said that, that would be tossed around as proof he is senile and has to drop out. Here it is just one doddering insane comment after another. That’s the thing. With Biden it would have been a gaffe in the middle of a fairly solid speech outlining a vision and some policy statements. OH MY GOD WHAT DID HE JUST SAY!!?? With Trump, its a minor blip amidst a stream of insane lies, discussion of golfer’s penis size and a bunch of rambling stories that go nowhere. MEH, NOT A BIG DEAL THAT HE DOES NOT KNOW WHERE HE IS. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3460 "2024-11-05T21:09:23Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > When, exactly is the election over? According to Trump last night, it’s over at midnight, as long as he’s ahead. To hell with counting all the votes. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3461 "2024-11-05T21:16:34Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > According to Trump last night, it’s over at midnight, as long as he’s ahead. He’ll be ahead in the popular vote until all of the votes from California come in some time tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3462 "2024-11-05T21:24:33Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > When, exactly is the election over? What with challenges and recounts, it can take a while before it is official. It used to be March, iirc when the new president took office. Just for example, in Westminster-style systems parliament is dissolved at the _beginning_ of the election campaign. The executive part of the government continues function in a caretaking role until the new parliament is sworn in, typically 6-8 weeks later or so, but it cannot pass any legislation. I do understand the history of why it’s set up that way in the US, but allowing politicians who have been voted out of office to pass new legislation is utterly bonkers. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3463 "2024-11-05T21:33:06Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > When, exactly is the election over? What with challenges and recounts, it can take a while before it is official. Officially, it’s “over” on January 6, when the electoral college votes are formally tabulated in Congress. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3464 "2024-11-05T21:36:15Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Officially, it’s “over” on January 6, when the electoral college votes are formally tabulated in Congress. Yes, but > [@Horatius](#): > > That actually wouldn’t be a bad idea. The whole “lame duck” period in US elections is just bizarre. “Okay, you lost the election, but we’re going to let you retain power for several months, and actually pass laws and shit that still have actual, legal effects.” See- starting a new administration on say- Nov 6th- wouldnt work. I agree that the lead up time/lame duck period in the USA is too long, however. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3465 "2024-11-05T21:37:46Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I agree that the lead up time/lame duck period in the USA is too long, however. Agreed. It’s, in part, an artifact of longer travel times in the 18th and 19th century, I’m sure. And, these days, a certain amount of time for legal challenges is also needed, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3466 "2024-11-05T23:05:08Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > > According to Trump last night, it’s over at midnight, as long as he’s ahead. > > He’ll be ahead in the popular vote until all of the votes from California come in some time tomorrow. Every responsible news outlet (thinking of television and perhaps the most-visited sites) should prominently display a list of _ **What We Know in Advance that Trump Will Do** _: > [@](#): > > - Declare that vote-counting should stop before the California vote comes in > - Declare that the existence of mail-in ballots proves RIGGING and FRAUD > - Declare that the existence of provisional ballots proves RIGGING and FRAUD > - Hold a press conference to declare himself the winner every single time he’s ahead in the electoral vote count, even though he hasn’t reached 270. This could mean a dozen or more press conferences …and probably several more that haven’t occurred to me. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3467 "2024-11-06T00:19:59Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > - Declare that vote-counting should stop before the California vote comes in > - Declare that the existence of mail-in ballots proves RIGGING and FRAUD > - Declare that the existence of provisional ballots proves RIGGING and FRAUD > - Hold a press conference to declare himself the winner every single time he’s ahead in the electoral vote count, even though he hasn’t reached 270. This could mean a dozen or more press conferences I thought it was the existence of Harris votes that proves RIGGING and FRAUD. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3468 "2024-11-06T00:25:05Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I agree that the lead up time/lame duck period in the USA is too long, however. I do not have a strong opinion on this. But just to point out, it is used to be longer in the U.S., and still is longer in Taiwan and Mexico. If Trump wins, we’ll wish it was much longer. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3469 "2024-11-06T03:54:13Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I thought it was the existence of Harris votes that proves RIGGING and FRAUD. For what it is worth, I am sure that if Nikki Haley had ever offered serious competition to Trump in the primaries, she also would have been accused of this. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3470 "2024-11-06T19:23:15Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I thought it was the existence of Harris votes that proves RIGGING and FRAUD. > [@DWMarch](#): > > For what it is worth, I am sure that if Nikki Haley had ever offered serious competition to Trump in the primaries, she also would have been accused of this. Yeah, both of those. Among the twisted blessings of this day of horror: at least we won’t have to hear the Fraud and Stolen and Rigged litany again. ---
**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3471 "2024-11-06T19:39:43Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > at least we won’t have to hear the Fraud and Stolen and Rigged litany again I wish you were right about that, but I suspect you won’t be ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3472 "2024-11-07T07:57:56Z")
Already going on. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/3473 "2024-11-07T08:17:17Z")
All things considered, I’d rather listen to him bitch about the election being stolen for the next four years than the reality. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=171) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=173)