# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/421 "2024-03-18T16:14:37Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Well, obviously.

I think I see what you did there. Bravo.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/422 "2024-03-18T16:18:30Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> > Well, obviously.
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> I think I see what you did there. Bravo

I think **bobot** is the one who did it.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/423 "2024-03-18T17:01:24Z")

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We’ll go with joint effort on that one.  
(No “joint” funny business, now.)

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/424 "2024-03-18T18:16:53Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> I don’t think that proving Trump’s dementia to his followers will win you anything at all. They are still going to vote for the GOP nominee, and that’s him. As long as he can sign where they tell him to sign nobody in the GOP cares.

> [@bobot](#):
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> That’s true. Mitch McConnell goes catatonic and they don’t blink an eye.

Yeah, I was going to mention this example earlier and I forgot (uh oh, is that a sign??). I think the McConnell situation is telling. Now _that_ was some scary “live on TV” incapacitation, much more severe than anything posted here from Trump. And it happened TWICE. What was the GOP reaction? “Nothing to see here.” Release a medical report a week later saying everything’s good. Bury it and move on.

I realize that Minority Leader is not the same thing as Presidential candidate, but we have seen over and over and over and over and over and over again that the GOP - both voters and pols - will excuse any and all behaviors and words emitting from Trump. Sure, there might be a few here and there that balk at certain moments, but they quickly fall back into line (e.g Graham) or are purged (e.g. Cheney, Kinzinger, etc.) and the train keeps on rolling.

All of this Trump mental deterioration talk will amount to absolutely diddly-squat, unless he collapses and dies or is rendered completely unable to speak for a significant period of time. Even then I’m not 100% sure they won’t prop him up and keep going a la “Weekend at Donnie’s.”

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/425 "2024-03-18T19:47:05Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> To convince undecided voters (as opposed to those of use who wouldn’t vote for Trump if tomorrow he developed the eloquence of Martin Luther King or Winston Churchill) that he shouldn’t be president because he’d have access to nuclear codes,

With the Indy and young votes- it isnt trying to get them to not vote for trump- sure, they won’t. But The Kremlin and the GOP is pushing hard the “both sides are the same” and “Biden is too old” crap, so that what I am worried about - is that the indy and youth voters either stay home or vote 3rd party. Exactly what happened in 2016.

> [@sciurophobic](#):
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> Donald has ten grandchildren. I’ve never seen him interact with any of them

Something I REALLY do not want to see anyway. .

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/426 "2024-03-19T05:02:07Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> As long as he can sign where they tell him to sign nobody in the GOP cares.

[![](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a9KYxn0_700bwp.webp) ](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a9KYxn0_700bwp.webp)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/427 "2024-03-19T23:03:23Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Look how bored the people behind him look.

Bored or maybe bombed out of their skulls.

I’m guessing a LOT of drinking (and drugging) goes on at the Trump rallies. After all, they have to quiet the part of their mind that says ‘this guy is not just confused, he’s _crazy_.’

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/428 "2024-03-19T23:23:36Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I’m guessing a LOT of drinking (and drugging) goes on at the Trump rallies. After all, they have to quiet the part of their mind that says ‘this guy is not just confused, he’s _crazy_.’

I’ve sometimes described Trump ralles as being similar to Phish or Grateful Dead concerts, so this makes sense to me.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/429 "2024-03-19T23:50:54Z")

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I’ve attended Grateful Dead concerts, and find what you write to be absolute rubbish and worse.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/430 "2024-03-20T00:49:13Z")

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Yeah, not really seeing the comparison, other than maybe “what’s happening on stage continues to go on happening for longer than most people would consider reasonable, and often long periods of time pass with no coherent words being spoken”. 😄

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/431 "2024-03-20T00:51:43Z")

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For Trump, you’ve got people who follow him around attending various rallies. It reminds me of Deadheads and whatever you call Phish fans who spent time following their favorite band around to attend their concerts.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/432 "2024-03-20T00:52:40Z")

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They are talented though.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/433 "2024-03-20T00:53:51Z")

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I guess if you’re talking about something like today’s Dead and Company, rather than the actual pre-1995 Grateful Dead, you could add that the crowd is mostly elderly white people. A significant difference is that most of the Deadheads will regain their capacity for rational thought once the drugs wear off.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/434 "2024-03-20T01:58:51Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I’ve attended Grateful Dead concerts, and find what you write to be absolute rubbish and worse.

Yeah, no similarities at all. I worked security at one, and attended one.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/435 "2024-03-20T06:34:45Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> It reminds me of Deadheads and whatever you call Phish fans…

Roly poly?

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/436 "2024-03-20T10:26:32Z")

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I understood that reference.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/437 "2024-03-20T10:33:48Z")

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It took me of thinking of the song to get it.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/438 "2024-03-20T10:59:38Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> I’ve sometimes described Trump ralles as being similar to Phish or Grateful Dead concerts

Yeah, please don’t ever again compare me to somebody who attends a Trump rally. The only thing I have in common with the MAGAts is the color of my skin.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/439 "2024-03-22T03:39:30Z")

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I know, I know, appeal to authority but nonetheless, here’s another doctor who is willing to say Trump is showing obvious signs of dementia:

> **[Donald Trump dementia evidence "overwhelming," says top psychiatrist](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-dementia-evidence-overwhelming-top-psychiatrist-1881247)**
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> Dr. Lance Dodes wrote that the former president showed signs of "confusion about reality" and "would have to be immediately removed from office" if elected.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/440 "2024-03-22T04:22:51Z")

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I doubt this is an opinion widely shared by most doctors. However, like me they do not spend much time with Trump. (Explains my very mediocre golf game.)

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