# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/441 "2024-03-22T10:38:00Z")

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John Gartner, the respected psychologist who started this whole thing, says that dementia is a unique condition. Unlike other mental pathologies, which typically require in-depth interviews and other tests, dementia is primarily diagnosed by simple observation (and the observations of loved ones).

MRIs and other such tests may buttress the diagnosis, but it’s principally watching and listening and concluding, “Yeah, that guy has dementia.” Trump has given us a large sample size for observation. An expert (frankly, even a non-expert as it progresses) can absolutely determine the existence of dementia simply by observing someone like Trump who gives us daily opportunities to take a gander.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/442 "2024-03-22T14:52:29Z")

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And he is well insulated from other ways we assess dementia—paying bills, feeding himself, opening mail, etc etc. My mom had dementia but was “lucid” in that she had scripts she could still run, but couldn’t do any of that other stuff. She was a model of coherence in comparison.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/443 "2024-03-22T15:09:34Z")

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Just out of curiosity, I googled the age at which father Fred started to show signs of dementia, just to get an idea what kind of timeline might be in store for the son.

Now, to get all disclaimery, a parent having Alzheimer’s is a _possible_ indicator of increased likelihood of a child getting it, but is by no means a certainty. So the following is all purely speculative, but this thread is speculative, so here goes…

According to [Fred Trump’s Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump#Wealth_and_death):

> In October 1991, [Fred] Trump was diagnosed with "mild senile dementia, with his physician citing symptoms of “obvious memory decline in recent years” and “significant memory impairment”. A few months later, another physician reported that [Fred] Trump “did not know his birth date [or] age”, amongst other difficulties.

In October 1991, Fred Trump would have just turned 85, less than 8 years older than donald is now.

But Fred probably showed significant signs of mental impairment for quite some time before the official diagnosis. The kind of mental issues that would be less than ideal in a sitting President. And donald trump loathes exercise, is obese, and certainly does not challenge himself cognitively, so _ **if** _ dementia is in store for him, he’s not doing anything to stave it off; quite the opposite-- his bad health habits would be prone to possibly accelerate oncoming dementia.

In fact, in the article below, more than half of the 10 factors linked to increased risk of Alzheimer’s probably apply to trump, and ‘heredity’ isn’t even one of the 10:

> **[The ten factors linked to increased risk of Alzheimer’s disease](https://theconversation.com/the-ten-factors-linked-to-increased-risk-of-alzheimers-disease-143122)**
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> Stress, depression, and high blood pressure were just some of the risk factors the study’s researchers identified.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/444 "2024-03-25T21:42:01Z")

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“You can’t have an election in the middle of a political season”

> <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1772311788849156532>

“We’ll bring crime back to law and order”

> <https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1772311116288348216>

“I have a lot of cash, I wouldn’t swap it for any other brand in the world, Trump”

> <https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1772313512225743337>

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/445 "2024-03-26T21:24:56Z")

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Biden is DISINFORMATING and MISINFORNATING our GREST citizens about how Loser Donald wants to repeal Obamacare, which he has apparently supported all along and wants to expand.

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJnzqFzXcAAjF6p?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJnzqFzXcAAjF6p?format=jpg&name=medium)

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/446 "2024-03-26T21:46:58Z")

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> Biden is DISINFORMATING and MISINFORNATING our GREST citizens…

_ **Wrong!** _ It’s Joe _ **BUDEN** _ who’s doing it!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/447 "2024-03-26T22:40:32Z")

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The only ECONOMY he wants to make great is his own.

If only he had taken his fathers 600 million and kept his head down, we all, the entire country, would be better off.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/448 "2024-03-26T22:43:03Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> about how Loser Donald wants to repeal Obamacare, which he has apparently supported all along and wants to expand.

Well given that Loser Donald is about to be broke, and seems to be in need of significant maintenance care, perhaps including a locked memory facility, it’s only logical that now he wants to expand Obamacare so he can get some for himself.

Like a lot of conservatives, they’re all for self-sufficiency until suddenly they need a hand, then some good old fashioned American Socialism is just the ticket. As long as nobody calls it that to their face.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/449 "2024-03-26T23:05:08Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> The only ECONOMY he wants to make great is his own.

Not great, “grest”.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/450 "2024-03-26T23:17:29Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Biden is DISINFORMATING and MISINFORNATING…

You misspelled Buden.  
ETA: Note to self - scroll to bottom of page before replying.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/451 "2024-03-26T23:32:49Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Loser Donald wants to repeal Obamacare, which he has apparently supported all along and wants to expand.

He knows that we know that he was already president, right?

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/452 "2024-03-27T00:00:41Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> He knows that we know that he was already president, right?

No, he very distinctly told us that Biden beat Obama in that election.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/453 "2024-03-27T00:13:10Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> he very distinctly told us that Biden beat Obama in that election.

Touché .

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/454 "2024-03-27T00:24:36Z")

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It would be a real nice world in which our choices for president in Nov were Obama or Biden.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/455 "2024-03-27T16:07:58Z")

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I figured this had to be fake. Nope. Found it on Truth and still appears identical including the very odd choices to not have IN UPPER-CASE! That lower-case “or” really makes the surrounding words pop!

What a deranged, idiotic nut-bag.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/456 "2024-03-27T16:35:15Z")

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I am, proudly, a grest American Citizen.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/457 "2024-03-27T16:45:06Z")

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Thank you for informating us of that info.

ETA; Sorry, I meant to say:

THANK YOU for INFORMATING US of THAT INFO!

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/458 "2024-03-27T16:58:17Z")

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Make America Grest Again!

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/459 "2024-03-27T17:12:43Z")

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Covfefe for all! A grest in every pothole!

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/460 "2024-03-27T19:35:05Z")

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Say, whatever happened to the Grest Covfefe Controversation?

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