# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/521 "2024-04-14T21:14:43Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Trump “quoting” Robert E. Lee at Gettysburg: “Never fight uphill me boys, never fight uphill…wow.”
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> Just remember, no matter how many demented babblings Trump racks up, it’s Biden who’s old and confused.

That’s Trump reading his speech for the first time ever as he sees it on the prompter and feeling the need to add his own commentary about this fact he’s just been introduced to for the first time and which he therefore assumes the audience has never heard either. It’s the same thing as when he reads a person’s name he’s never heard of and declares it a “beautiful name”.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/522 "2024-04-14T22:05:00Z")

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Don’t worry, I got it.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/523 "2024-04-22T07:04:15Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “Gettysburg. What an unbelievable battle. That was the battle of Gettysburg. What an unbelievable I mean, it was so much and so interesting and so vicious and horrible and so beautiful and so many different ways… Gettysburg wow.”

Sounds like a fifth grader giving a book report on a book he hasn’t read.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/524 "2024-04-22T07:44:55Z")

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Fun Quiz time!

_Mailboxes drip like lampposts in the twisted birth canal of the coliseum_  
_Rim job fairy teapots mask the temper tantrum_  
_O say can you see 'em_  
_Stuffed cabbage is the darling of the Laundromat_  
_'N the sorority mascot sat with the lumberjack_

Were these words spoken or sung by:

1. Bob Dylan, in 1966, in a New York City club
2. John C. Reilly, in _Walk Hard: the Dewey Cox Story_
3. That guy we all knew in undergrad
4. Donald J. Trump

Actually, choice 2 is correct, but I can totally hear Trump reading this out if it was put before him on a teleprompter, and as if it was serious.

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**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/525 "2024-04-22T08:01:01Z")

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I could have sworn that was Vogon poetry…

Back to Trump: Not quite sure whether he does it on purpose, but listening to his delivery, his voice, the repetition of words and the unspecified nouns, verbs and universal quantifiers (“people are saying…”), is actually quite trance-inducing. I wonder if that is why people attending his rallies don’t realise what incoherent rubbish comes out of his mouth, as they are literally zonked out.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/526 "2024-04-28T23:09:49Z")

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> **[Doonesbury Comic Strips by Garry Trudeau - April 28, 2024](https://production.doonesbury.com/doonesbury/strip/archive/2024/04/28)**
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> Welcome to Doonesbury's web site, which features not only each day's strip (easily enlargeable for your easy-viewing pleasure), but also the daily SayWhat? quote, a constant flow of reader Blowback, a Mudline of negative soundbites by public figures,...

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/527 "2024-04-29T00:27:55Z")

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Well, to be grudgingly fair (and boy does it hurt), some of the slurring could be caused by poorly fitting or inadequately anchored dentures. Otherwise, though, yeh, what mental capacity he still has is clearly cdwindling.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/528 "2024-04-29T01:20:07Z")

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I have never been a fan of Trump, but I do not agree with that Doonesbury cartoon. Trump has some psychiatric diagnoses, but not that one. His garbled language could be caused by many, many other things.

However, there is a concern in the change of Trump’s speeches since 2016. This informative gift link explains the concern in much detail.

> **[Donald Trump Has Never Sounded Like This](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/27/magazine/trump-rallies-rhetoric.html?unlocked_article_code=1.n00.ShHy.v_bRlwG4H67I&smid=url-share)**
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> No major American presidential candidate has talked like he now does at his rallies — not Richard Nixon, not George Wallace, not even Donald Trump himself.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/529 "2024-04-29T01:27:47Z")

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**Excerpt from above link.**

_Trump’s critics were right in 2016 to observe the grim novelty of his politics: their ideology of national pessimism, their open demagoguery and clear affinities with the far right, their blunt division of the country into **us** and **them** in a way that no major party’s presidential nominee had dared for decades. But Trump’s great accomplishment, one that was less visible from a distance but immediately apparent at his rallies, was the us that he conjured there: the way his supporters saw not only him but one another, and saw in themselves a movement._

_That **us** is still there in Trump’s 2024 speeches. But it is not really the main character anymore. These speeches, and the events that surround them, are about **them** — what **they** have done to Trump, and what Trump intends to do in return._

_“I keep telling people: ‘Watch the speeches,’” Stephen K. Bannon, Trump’s 2016 campaign chief executive and, briefly, chief White House strategist, told me recently. “When you look at the content of what he’s putting out there, he couldn’t telegraph this any more clearly: what he stands for, and what he’s up against.”_

_Trump has always said what he means in his speeches. He is also constantly obscuring it, by instinct or design, contradicting his own statements or waving them off as jokes, scribbling over them with tangents and lies and just plain weirdness. One of the first things I noticed watching him last year, though, is that this is less true than it once was._

_As with everything about Trump, what was once revolutionary has become institutionalized. The insult-comic riffs and winding tours through the headlines are more constrained and repetitive now, his performer’s instincts duller than they once were. The brutalist building blocks of the prepared speech, its stock-photo celebrations of national triumphs (“We stand on the shoulders of American heroes who crossed the ocean, settled the continent, tamed the wilderness, laid down the railroads, raised up those great beautiful skyscrapers … ”) and lamentations of national decline, now stand out in clearer relief._

_They build to a rhetorical climax that is echoed from one speech to the next. In Claremont, N.H., in November, he said:_

“2024 is our final battle.

With you at my side — and you’ve been at my side from the beginning — we will demolish the deep state. We’ll expel, we’re going to expel, those horrible, horrible warmongers from our government. They want to fight everybody. They want to kill people all over the place. Places we’ve never heard about before. Places that want to be left alone.”

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/530 "2024-04-29T15:09:23Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Trump “quoting” Robert E. Lee at Gettysburg: “Never fight uphill me boys, never fight uphill…wow.”

What I’ve been wondering ever since Trump pulled this gem out of his addled brain: we know Robert E. Lee never said anything about fighting uphill (in a leprechaun accent no less) but…did anyone? Where the hell did that quote come from?

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/531 "2024-04-30T03:14:00Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Sounds like maybe trump’s brain blew a seal.

Putin has it on video.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/532 "2024-04-30T03:44:01Z")

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‘Fake news! It’s ice cream! Two scoops!’

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/533 "2024-04-30T03:47:12Z")

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One hopes the yellow drizzle is butterscotch.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/534 "2024-05-01T20:52:11Z")

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“$1.2 trillion for their fake infratruckershire bill”

> <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1785744715280797872>

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/535 "2024-05-01T21:36:56Z")

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Infratruckersistershire?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/536 "2024-05-01T21:55:11Z")

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It’s a sauce he puts on his hamberders when ketchup just isn’t enough.

Just wondering … has anybody made a list of Trump’s verbal gaffes? Covfefe, hamberders, Nambia, bigly, and now infratruckershire. There are others, but has anybody listed all of them?

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/537 "2024-05-01T22:13:04Z")

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This is my favorite Trump gaffe. You can hear his brain melting down after he says “ree-pee-toot” (it’s the weird eye look and the “uhhhhh” noise).

> [@A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/4748):
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> ot sure that this video has been posted, but I just learned of it. Does Trump have a mini-stroke during this? I mean seriously, how can you watch this and think they guy is OK?
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> [https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5108401%2Fuser-clip-saudi-arabia-russia-what](https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5108401%2Fuser-clip-saudi-arabia-russia-what)

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/538 "2024-05-01T22:43:40Z")

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Answer to thread question is No:

> **[Trump Is Trying Something New With the 2024 Campaign. It’s Smart—and Terrifying.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/05/trump-campaign-strategy-white-house-election-endorsements.html)**
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> This is a completely different strategy than we're used to.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/539 "2024-05-02T00:08:21Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Infratruckersistershire?

Mornington Crescent.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/540 "2024-05-02T00:17:38Z")

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“He’s no good on flation”

> <https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1785802346301174222>

“We can’t make your auto industry gate”

> <https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1785801429724135530>

“It’s even more becocked”

> <https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1785751842657312846>

“Vagen food”

> <https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1785746307132391507>

“GOP growth is plunging”

> <https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1785742028640325882>

“Venezueler”

> <https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1785808215990538266>

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