# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/761 "2024-05-28T21:10:50Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Who is Trump trying to replace again, and who is he in this analogy: Joe Biden or the guy who replaces him?

He’s the guy who should replace Biden to prevent Hitler.

It’s very clear that he’s trying to warn the donors that Biden is a “weak president” and therefore has to be replaced. Hitler is the cautionary tale, not the goal.

And yes, it’s ironic that you can draw numerous parallels between Hitler’s rise to power and Trump’s, but Trump is not in any way “constructing an analogy where he is Hitler”.

> [@Jihi](#):
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> I mean like it’s a f\*\*\*\*\*\* “Hitler in a box”. You wind enough and he just pops out? Really? And it really sounds like he’s trying to blame FDR for the rise of Hitler. This might be the most assinine thing I’ve seen from him in a while and that’s saying something.

Exactly, it’s an incredibly stupid argument.

I don’t think he’s blaming FDR though, and this is really just a guess on my part, but I would guess he’s blaming Hindenburg, who was the leader of Germany at the time but caved to pressure and appointed Hitler as chancellor (before Hindenburg himself died and Hitler took over completely).

Trump’s argument is clumsy, vague, and incoherent though, so at least from that snippet it’s hard to be 100% sure if he’s referring to Hindenburg. (Or even really knows who that was.)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/762 "2024-05-28T21:11:28Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I think the President can _return_ a salute given him as Commander in Chief.

Tradition has it that a Medal of Honor recipient is saluted by everyone, officer and enlisted. So if a C-in-C meets one in the wild would it lead to an infinite loop?

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It’s a stupid argument and it’s full of irony but in no way is presenting **himself** as Hitler.

No one is the villain of his own story, not even Trump. It just goes to show the power od rationalization.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/763 "2024-05-28T22:10:51Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> it’s hard to be 100% sure if he’s referring to Hindenburg. (Or even really knows who that was.)

He was that enormous guy who had a bad case of gas.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/764 "2024-05-28T23:32:51Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I don’t think he’s blaming FDR though

5 will get you 10 that he couldn’t identify FDR from the photo of the Yalta Conference.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/765 "2024-05-29T00:42:06Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> He was that enormous guy who had a bad case of gas.

Beat me to it.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/766 "2024-05-29T01:43:50Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> 5 will get you 10 that he couldn’t identify FDR from the photo of the Yalta Conference.

“That’s Marla… that’s my wife.”

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/767 "2024-05-29T02:03:34Z")

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Would that be Stalin or Churchill?

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/768 "2024-05-29T02:25:08Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Trump’s argument is clumsy, vague, and incoherent though, so at least from that snippet it’s hard to be 100% sure if he’s referring to Hindenburg. (Or even really knows who that was.)

Could be wrong, but I interpreted “weak president or head of the country” to be an allusion to the appeasers. While I’m open to the idea that Trump only plays dumb on TV, I would agree that he doesn’t know/has forgotten who Baldwin, Chamberlain, or Hindenburg were. And more than that — Trump is a worse appeaser of Putin than any British PM was of Hitler.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/769 "2024-05-29T02:36:42Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> And more than that — Trump is a worse appeaser of Putin than any British PM was of Hitler.

There is way too much truth to that.

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**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/770 "2024-05-29T04:40:39Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump heard a song and could not remember what it was. His addled brain decided to salute, just in case this was the appropriate response for the song

Personally, I think it is more insidious than that. His followers actually believe he is a good Christian who is going to return the country to being a god-fearing nation. He is subtly reminding them of that with his patriotic salute to a Christian song. These self-serving gestures, believe it or not, earn him votes.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/771 "2024-05-29T11:58:13Z")

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But I thought we were supposed to “kneel for the cross, but stand for the flag”

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/772 "2024-05-29T12:04:59Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> “kneel for the cross, but stand for the flag”

God, I hate Leg Day.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/773 "2024-05-31T19:34:16Z")

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“Put him in jail twice. He is 77 years old. Normally, I would say that’s an old guy. But I don’t feel 77. Nobody ever says that about me. I would like them to say, we have to have a little sorrow for this man because they just don’t say that about me”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1796562418002518419>

“They were able to use people, salacious, by the way nothing happened, there was no anything”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1796561934416015413>

“I wanted to testify. The theory is, you never testify. As soon as you testify, anybody, if it were George Washington, don’t testify”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1796561213306073281>

“Our witnesses were literally crucified by this man who looks like an angel, but he is really a devil”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1796560554359996767>

“Was he a bad boy here?”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1796561121140224091>

“They want to stop you from having cars”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1796559971850563734>

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/774 "2024-05-31T20:35:26Z")

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And from yesterday’s post-verdict rant:

“This is long from over.”

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/775 "2024-05-31T21:01:05Z")

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> “This is long from over.”

It aint over until the fat man is in prison. 🤪

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/776 "2024-05-31T21:04:18Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> … our witnesses were literally crucified …

Well, they were destroyed on cross.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/777 "2024-05-31T21:24:54Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “They want to stop you from having cars”

what the ??

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/778 "2024-05-31T22:03:53Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> what the ??

Funnily enough, as an ex-President, Trump cant have (well, drive) a car.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/779 "2024-05-31T22:05:08Z")

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Who is trump referring to with the “looks like an angel but he is really a devil” statement? Is he talking about Judge Merchan?

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/780 "2024-05-31T22:13:58Z")

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Yes, Trump has a fixation on Merchan’s looks that (_checks forum_) I will not speculate on the reason for.

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