# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/921 "2024-06-13T13:23:21Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Yup. And of course magnets don’t work under water. I think that was something about catapults and aircraft carriers going to rail guns instead of steam. Or… something.

Here’s an article about it (2019):

[Trump Tells U.S. Navy to Go Back to Steam Catapults](https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a27632779/trump-navy-steam-catapults/)

_“We don’t need that extra speed,” the President said of the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System_.

> Earlier this week, President Trump continued to press his attack on a U.S. Navy system that uses magnetism to launch aircraft from aircraft carriers. At an event on a Japan-based navy warship, Trump reiterated his claim that the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System, or EMALS, is inferior to the use of steam catapults to get airplanes in the air.

Trump:

> “You know the catapult is quite important. So I said what is this? Sir, this is our digital catapult system. He said well, we’re going to this because we wanted to keep up with modern [technology]. I said you don’t use steam anymore for catapult? No sir. I said, “Ah, how is it working?” “Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air.” It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said–and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said what system are you going to be–“Sir, we’re staying with digital.” I said no you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.”

Q.E.D.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/922 "2024-06-13T13:44:32Z")

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And now, a dramatic reading of the Parable of the Battery and the Shark.

> <https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1801063601740161177>

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/923 "2024-06-13T13:46:16Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> > Sir, this is our digital catapult system…

You left out the part about how the guy said it with tears in his eyes.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/924 "2024-06-13T13:55:08Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You left out the part about how the guy said it with tears in his eyes.

That’s a direct Trump quote from the article. Trump forgot to include that–he is getting confused!

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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/925 "2024-06-13T15:58:36Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> He doesn’t seem to realize that every ship at sea already has a complicated electrical system that works perfectly fine, even when they get a little wet. He’s just convinced that water+electricity=failure, and doesn’t move past that.

He learned at the “1980s sitcom” school of electronics.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/926 "2024-06-13T19:06:34Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> And now, a dramatic reading of the Parable of the Battery and the Shark.

Internet Joke Guys the world over are having their fun with Man Person Boat Battery Shark:

> <https://x.com/ActionMovieKid/status/1801002617436348710>

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/927 "2024-06-13T21:27:01Z")

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“Nancy Pelosi’s daughter is a wacko, her daughter told me if things were different Nancy and I would be perfect together”

> <https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/1801253197786312717>

“Milwaukee, where we are having our convention, is a horrible city”

> <https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/1801263633160196419>

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/928 "2024-06-13T22:19:53Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “Nancy Pelosi’s daughter is a wacko, her daughter told me if things were different Nancy and I would be perfect together”

The full details of this here:

> **[‘Like Talking to Your Drunk Uncle’: Trump’s Closed-Door Rant to House...](https://www.notus.org/trump-2024/like-talking-to-your-drunk-uncle-trump-closed-door-rant-house-republicans)**
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> Donald Trump came to Capitol Hill to talk about his agenda for a second term. He instead spent an hour delving into House GOP drama, cracking jokes and saying weird things about Nancy Pelosi’s daughters.

I’ll definitely call this part of his mental decline. This isn’t a stump speech for the chumps who vote for him, this is a closed doors conversation with the GOP. Whatever craziness he spouts for the proles in public, I’ve not heard reports of this kind of rambling before in private (he’s said even more terrible things in private obviously, e.g the Access Hollywood tape, but there was nothing particular rambling and incoherent about that)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/929 "2024-06-13T22:41:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “I saw him in the hospital,” Trump said, according to a source. “I can tell your wife really loves you, Steve, because some wives wouldn’t care.”

[![](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/22/us/politics/22dc-melania-jacket/merlin_140003229_42fb039a-aeb8-41c6-93cd-72f3810dac4a-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale) ](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/06/22/us/politics/22dc-melania-jacket/merlin_140003229_42fb039a-aeb8-41c6-93cd-72f3810dac4a-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale)

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/930 "2024-06-13T23:24:52Z")

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> [@griffin1977](#):
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> [‘Like Talking to Your Drunk Uncle’: Trump’s Closed-Door Rant to House Republicans - NOTUS (Allbritton Journalism Institute)](https://www.notus.org/trump-2024/like-talking-to-your-drunk-uncle-trump-closed-door-rant-house-republicans)

And then the APs take on it, I really don’t buy the idea that mainstream media is deliberately trying to boost Trump, but this kind of shit is really making it hard not think that:

> <https://x.com/AP/status/1801352241212719305?t=KRgemeNZp3HSw_86nKsJQg&s=19>

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/931 "2024-06-14T01:27:52Z")

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> [@griffin1977](#):
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> And then the APs take on it, I really don’t buy the idea that mainstream media is deliberately trying to boost Trump, but this kind of shit is really making it hard not think that:

Top two replies to that at the moment I’m posting this.

> <https://x.com/miss_dion_/status/1801356713980731703>

> <https://x.com/j_blue_advocacy/status/1801360502662013269>

Now, here is another one from the AP.

> <https://x.com/AP/status/1801366115916055006>

**That** one had a sick burn; “infused with the symbolism of his return as the U.S. president who threatened the American tradition of the peaceful transfer of power”.

And if you notice, the AP did explicitly mention the Jan. 6 attacks in that first post. Which made me realize… That wasn’t meant to praise Trump after all. By bringing up the coup attempt, it was a dig at him.

Anyway, if we’re going to debate whether the AP is on Trump’s side or not, that probably doesn’t have a lot to do with Trump being confused. (Though it’s kind of making _me_ confused to try to read between the lines of the AP.)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/932 "2024-06-14T01:35:59Z")

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Man he was greasy looking in the video.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/933 "2024-06-14T01:46:21Z")

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I am pretty sure if trump was seen wandering off at a G7 summit, people would Know he was out of it.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/934 "2024-06-14T02:05:57Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I am pretty sure if trump was seen wandering off at a G7 summit, people would Know he was out of it

This is an opaque reference to the latest manufactured scandal regarding Joe Biden, who the right is trying to present as demented.

> **[MAGA blasts Biden amid new viral video: "Wandering off"](https://www.newsweek.com/video-joe-biden-wandering-off-g7-goes-viral-1912653)**
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> Some users have pointed out that the video of Biden shared online by Trump supporters does not provide full context.

Of course, this lacks context. He wasn’t _wandering off_, but saying something to somebody.

> [@](#):
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> In the clip, Biden and [the other G7 leaders](https://www.newsweek.com/biden-faces-meloni-relishing-g7-puglia-1912272)are seen applauding a skydiving demonstration when the president turns to his left and walks toward a man packing up a parachute, and away from the gathering of world officials. It is not clear what Biden said to the man but he is seen giving him a thumbs-up before Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni taps the president on the shoulder and gestures for him to return to the group, where they appear to pause for a photo opportunity.

Regardless, it’s really not germane to Trump’s state of mind.

It is right wing propaganda, however.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/935 "2024-06-14T02:07:19Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> This is an opaque reference to the latest manufactured scandal regarding Joe Biden, who the left is trying to present as demented.

The left? Pretty sure you meant the right, didn’t you? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/936 "2024-06-14T02:09:59Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> The left? Pretty sure you meant the right, didn’t you?

Correct. Sorry about that.

(I’ll correct with an edit).

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/937 "2024-06-14T02:37:53Z")

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> [@griffin1977](#):
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> I really don’t buy the idea that mainstream media is deliberately trying to boost Trump

The media themselves? No. The corporate bean-counters whose only job is to Make Line Go Up and are salivating over the idea of TV ratings like they got during the first Trump Regime? Absolutely.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/938 "2024-06-14T03:21:38Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “Milwaukee, where we are having our convention, is a horrible city”
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> [x.com](https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/1801263633160196419)

> **[Trump allies scramble to explain after he calls Republican National...](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/13/trump-calls-milwaukee-a-horrible-city-ahead-of-republican-convention.html)**
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> The Republican National Convention, where the party will officially nominate Trump as its presidential candidate, is set to take place in Milwaukee in July.

- _In a meeting with House Republicans, former President Donald Trump called Milwaukee — the host of the 2024 Republican National Convention — a “horrible” city and said it is overrun by crime._  
\*\* The Trump campaign denied that he called the city “horrible,” writing in a press release that the reports are a “total lie.”\*  
\*\* Democrats including President Joe Biden were quick to capitalize on Trump’s remarks about the largest city in Wisconsin, a key battleground state which Biden narrowly won in 2020.\*

> [@griffin1977](#):
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> I really don’t buy the idea that mainstream media is deliberately trying to boost Trump, but this kind of shit is really making it hard not think that:

Oh they are. trump makes headlines, Biden doesnt. The Mainstream media is buying into the GOPs big lies about “the economy is terrible” and “crime is out of control”. But are totally wrong, but “Economy is great” and “Crime is way down” dont sell ads.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/939 "2024-06-14T11:10:01Z")

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My CC popped up on that speech or whatever and it said -

“Failed to translate to English”

That pretty much covers everything he says.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/940 "2024-06-14T17:47:44Z")

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> <https://x.com/Jemsinger/status/1801601573937717693?t=zW1lvzjEvUi40OmuKaQUlA&s=19>

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