# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1021 "2024-06-19T03:06:19Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Sometimes Trump gives me Bobby Newport vibes.

Izzat the 21st century equivalent of [Russell’s teapot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot)?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1022 "2024-06-19T03:55:19Z")

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Trump biographer says that Convict Donald cut short a summer 2021 interview so he could “go upstairs and deal with the Afghanistan”.

> **[Trump seemed to think he still had presidential powers — even after election...](https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-2668543310/)**
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> After he lost the 2020 election, a defeated Donald Trump still acted as if he was president.
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> That's according to Variety co-editor-in-chief Ramin Setoodeh, who appeared on CNN's "The Source with Kaitlan Collins" on Tuesday night, claiming that in...

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1023 "2024-06-19T04:00:00Z")

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Is there a synopsis? (Not watching a video.)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1024 "2024-06-19T04:02:03Z")

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…it’s not a video, but here’s a relevant excerpt;

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> That’s according to Variety co-editor-in-chief Ramin Setoodeh, who appeared on CNN’s “The Source with Kaitlan Collins” on Tuesday night, claiming that in at least one of his conversations with the 45th president — post-2020 election defeat at Trump Tower in New York City — he curiously acted as if he was still doing the job during the interview…
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> He also seemed to think that he still had some foreign policy powers," said Setoodeh. “And there’s one day where he told me he needed to go upstairs to deal with ‘the Afghanistan’ – even though he clearly didn’t.”
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> “He told you that … while you were interviewing him at Trump Tower, he told you he needed to go upstairs to deal with Afghanistan,” she asked, as if to make sure she correctly heard what he said.
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> “With quote, ‘the Afghanistan’ is how we referred to it,” Setoodeh replied.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1025 "2024-06-19T04:11:30Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> …it’s not a video

Apologies. It looked like it when I clicked.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1026 "2024-06-19T06:25:37Z")

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More from that same author;

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1803246176571105508>

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1027 "2024-06-19T06:37:20Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump biographer says that Convict Donald cut short a summer 2021 interview so he could “go upstairs and deal with the Afghanistan”.

Is it possible that Donald Trump has an afghan named Stan?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1028 "2024-06-19T08:04:13Z")

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Personally, my assumption was that it was a euphemism for taking a shit. Like “I have to see a man about a horse”.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1029 "2024-06-19T10:03:54Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Personally, my assumption was that it was a euphemism for taking a shit.

I’d call that evacuating my forces from Turdistan.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1030 "2024-06-19T11:08:06Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Personally, my assumption was that it was a euphemism for taking a shit. Like “I have to see a man about a horse”.

If it wasn’t actually confusion, my thought is the same as yours. For somebody who used the term “shit-hole country” in a speech, referring to taking a dump as “dealing with (the) Afghanistan” seems like about the sort of 8yo boy humor he seems to favor.

I enjoy that humor too, but mostly in the privacy of my mind, and the company of my close friends. Not while being interviewed for a biography. Then again, Convict Donnie is well known for having no filters.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I’d call that evacuating my forces from Turdistan.

I laughed. 8yo boy humor is _good_ humor.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1031 "2024-06-19T12:00:50Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I enjoy that humor too, but mostly in the privacy of my mind, and the company of my close friends. Not while being interviewed for a biography. Then again, Convict Donnie is well known for having no filters.

As I often tell my wife:  
The reality is that no male ever matures past 13. The adult males just learn when they need to fake it.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1032 "2024-06-19T12:53:42Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> The reality is that no male ever matures past 13. The adult males just learn when they need to fake it.

I may have to meme this.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1033 "2024-06-19T13:54:21Z")

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Agree completely.

IMO it needs to be reworded to be punchier as a meme, but the idea is spot-on.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1034 "2024-06-19T14:13:36Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “Joe Bride is the worst… he will be a fading nightmare, a fading, I have a fading memory (emphasis mine), but do you mind if I change it?”

This is the first video I’ve seen that really shows his decline. He appears genuinely lost. Of course everyone has their off days, but if this becomes the new normal he’s definitely in a decline. If I had to extemporaneously speak every day I would have a lot more of these than Felon 1, but since I would have always had them, it wouldn’t mean anything.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1035 "2024-06-19T14:35:52Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> This is the first video I’ve seen that really shows his decline. He appears genuinely lost. Of course everyone has their off days, but if this becomes the new normal he’s definitely in a decline.

It looks to me like he doesn’t quite realize he’s talking to real people in real time. He’s talking to the people running the teleprompter, editing the speech as he goes, with the expectation that they can fix it in post-production.

He seems to think he’s actually shooting an episode of a TV show. Compare it to the outtakes of his comments on Jan 7th:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/7NrAPr8QFn0/maxresdefault.jpg "Never-Before-Seen #Outtakes Of Trump's Jan. 7 Speech") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NrAPr8QFn0)

He was a lot more coherent then. But you can see how he edits it as he’s talking.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1036 "2024-06-19T14:57:31Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> a dump as “dealing with (the) Afghanistan” seems like about the sort of 8yo boy humor he seems to favor

I’d argue that is way more sophisticated than Trump’s level of humor.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1037 "2024-06-19T15:01:45Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I may have to meme this.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> IMO it needs to be reworded to be punchier as a meme, but the idea is spot-on.

I would be honored to see the results.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1038 "2024-06-19T15:14:43Z")

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I don’t know how to use Photoshop, so this is the best I can do.

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/l2SdLbo.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/A3I4uSq/)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1039 "2024-06-19T16:34:31Z")

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If anyone else would like to try, [here is the image that I used](https://opdv.ny.gov/sites/g/files/oee1186/files/media/2022/05/men-and-boys.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1040 "2024-06-19T16:46:24Z")

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I would use: No dude ever matures beyond 13. But we’re really good at faking it. (That’s what she said.)

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