# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1041 "2024-06-19T17:19:07Z")

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No man ever matures past 13. That is his tragedy. Every woman does. That’s hers.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1042 "2024-06-19T17:25:19Z")

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Men are just 13-year-olds with better acting skills?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1043 "2024-06-19T17:39:09Z")

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We’re getting warmer. Lots warmer. @pulykamell did great.

@Q.Q.Switcheroo makes a great philosophical point that’d also make a good meme, but it’s not the same one. And would need a different pic w both happy men and vexed women in the same image.

Sorry to be no help except as a cheerleader. Being the prolifically prolix guy around here, I mostly suck at short and punchy. Once in awhile I can whip up a zinger, but not usually. And not on command. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1044 "2024-06-19T17:44:08Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> @Q.Q.Switcheroo makes a great philosophical point that’d also make a good meme, but it’s not the same one. And would need a different pic w both happy men and vexed women in the same image

…and a credit to Oscar Wilde 😉🫢

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1045 "2024-06-19T17:44:40Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> 8yo boy humor is _good_ humor.

Apologies for running with the hijack:

My first summer job was as a nanny for three little kids, including 7 and 8 year old brothers. Their mom was in the middle of a divorce-related breakdown and so had parked them with _her_ mother, but grandma was quite a proper lady and didn’t want to spend her time chasing after active children. Hence, my job.

One day somebody brought the boys a tape recorder to play with - as it happens, the same day that grandmother was having her ever-so-proper friends over for bridge and tea.

The guests arrived and the living room was off-limits to the children. But by then the boys had figured out that the most hilarious activity in the world, which they could engage in one room over, was to record themselves saying: “Pee-pee! Poop. Caca. Pee-poo-poop-POOP! Caca!” etc. and play it back at **the loudest possible volume** for all and sundry to hear.

Grandmother was not amused. But even as I type this out over 40 years later, I am chuckling. So I too have the same sense of humor as little boys.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1046 "2024-06-19T17:49:22Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> The reality is that no male ever matures past 13. The adult males just learn when they need to fake it.

I like OldOld’s original. But I do see the point that ‘fewer words is always better.’

One attempt:  
**For men, ‘emotional adulthood’ is always role-play.**

(That’s pretty much true of women, too. All “adulthood” for all humans is posturing. But some are better at sustaining long periods of responsible conduct and self-abnegation than others.)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1047 "2024-06-19T17:49:43Z")

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Moderating:

It’s long past time to drop the hijack about men and 8-year-old boy humor. No more posts about this, please. There is a specific topic for this thread. Let’s stick to it.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1048 "2024-06-20T22:37:02Z")

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On his relationship with Geraldo Rivera;

"He is -uh - after I lost the election, I won the election, but when they said we lost, he called me up three or four times. I didn’t take his call because I was so busy fighting it, you know, with what went on. And we’ve caught them, I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but you will. But he called me up three or four times, and finally, I had a little time. I called him back. And he went on Fox and he started talking about, ‘the president called me.’ I didn’t call him.

I returned his phone call, and he started talking very personally about how I was feeling, how I was doing. And I said, that’s really a betrayal. I didn’t talk about how I was feeling. It just was a phone call that lasted very quickly. Just, ‘Hey, how you doing, Gerlando? How’s it going?’

It’s not my deal — he’s not my psychiatrist. But he made it sound like it was such a big deal. It was nothing. All I did was return his call, but he said, ‘The president called me,’ like I was reaching out to him. And I haven’t spoken to him since."

> **[Trump blows apart his own lie in new recording](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2020-reveals-the-lie/)**
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> A new recording of former President Donald Trump reveals the ex-president slipping in a conversation and destroying his own lie. The new book "Apprentice in Wonderland" by Ramin Setoodeh tells some of the stories of the conversations with Trump, but...

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1049 "2024-06-20T23:35:32Z")

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I’ve read that article multiple times now trying to figure out what the point of it was. I don’t see how he “destroyed his own lie”. It’s a very sloppy article. Then again, it _is_ Raw Story.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1050 "2024-06-20T23:50:28Z")

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It’s Trump admitting he lost the election but then immediately reversing himself. He also seems to have beef with Geraldo over returning his phone call which Geraldo characterized as Trump calling him but Trump disagrees with that. Also, never ask Trump about his feelings because that is a betrayal.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1051 "2024-06-20T23:51:59Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> He also seems to have beef with Geraldo over returning his phone call which Geraldo characterized as Trump calling him but Trump disagrees with that.

“Gerlando”.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1052 "2024-06-20T23:57:55Z")

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He’s now on tape saying (when he was no longer POTUS) he is dedicating a lot of time to Afghanistan…

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1803930152579272936?t=oNNPOxMdtc--Kt5R_EVByA&s=19>

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1053 "2024-06-20T23:59:52Z")

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As we’ve said in another thread, perhaps “dealing with Afghanistan” may be a euphemism for going to the crapper and posting a rant in all caps.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1054 "2024-06-21T00:03:47Z")

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Sounds like he’s channeling Darryl Hammond as Jesse Jackson on SNL:

> For the record, I did not contact the Taliban; they, in fact, contacted me. What happened was this: I had a hang-up on my machine, so I star-sixty-nined, and they said, “Hello?” And I said, “Who is this?” And they said, “Who is this?” And I said, “You called me.” And they said, “You called us.” And I said, “I star-sixty-nined you!” They admitted it was the Taliban. Then I had a great laugh over what transpired. I immediately called the appropriate people in Washington, D.C., let them know I’d been contacted by the Taliban first. I then called my friend Gary to tell them how weird it was that the Taliban called. I pushed the redial button by mistake. I accidentally got the Taliban. At first, Jimmy, I thought it was my friend Gary being funny.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1055 "2024-06-21T00:06:07Z")

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It sounds like the recordings from the author that made those [claims](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1026) are now available. Here is the “Joan Rivers voted for me”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1803930491474903078?t=1V3duB6nqm9ub2jPFQr1Ig&s=19>

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1056 "2024-06-21T01:07:14Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> It’s Trump admitting he lost the election but then immediately reversing himself.

You mean this?

> after I lost the election, I won the election, but when they said we lost

That is worth devoting an entire article to?! 😆

He’s been saying it for years.

> **[Trump finally admits 'we didn't win' presidential election](https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2021/06/17/trump-finally-admits--we-didn-t-win--presidential-election)**
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> Although there was a caveat.

> **[Trump privately admitted he lost 2020 election, top aides testify](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/13/trump-admission-election-aides-january-6-panel)**
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> Alyssa Farah and Cassidy Hutchinson tell January 6 panel former president acknowledged he had been defeated by Joe Biden

Even in the Jan 6 subcommittee they had him admitting it.

[https://www.wsj.com/video/can-you-believe-i-lost-to-this-effing-guy-trump-knew-biden-won-aides-testify/2DAB7FB5-FA7B-4B68-A288-F08442AD504F](https://www.wsj.com/video/can-you-believe-i-lost-to-this-effing-guy-trump-knew-biden-won-aides-testify/2DAB7FB5-FA7B-4B68-A288-F08442AD504F)

Last year:

> **[Donald Trump Admits That People Told Him There Was No Election Fraud, and He...](https://people.com/donald-trump-admits-he-was-told-election-fraud-claims-were-false-7971126)**
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> While Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed the 2020 election was rigged against him, the former president admitted in a Sunday interview that he was told those claims were false — years before he was indicted for allegedly attempting to overturn the...

This isn’t news, especially when Trump immediately covers it up as a slip of the tongue.

I admit that the mangling of “Geraldo” who is supposedly someone he’s close friends with was funny.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1057 "2024-06-21T01:41:04Z")

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I forgot to add, “Joan Rivers voted for me” is gold. 🤣

The guy is an orange clown.

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1058 "2024-06-21T02:01:11Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I admit that the mangling of “Geraldo” who is supposedly someone he’s close friends with was funny.

I think that’s just a typo in the article. I watched the video, it sounds like he just says regular “Geraldo.”

A search for “Gerlando Trump” on Google doesn’t return anything interesting except a link back to the Raw Story article.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1059 "2024-06-21T02:04:51Z")

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> [@zbuzz](#):
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> A search for “Gerlando Trump” on Google doesn’t return anything interesting except a link back to the Raw Story article.

Raw Story. 🙄

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2024, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1060 "2024-06-21T11:47:06Z")

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Considering all the GOP’s other election fraud crap, it would be no surprise if ‘Joan Rivers’ did vote for him.

Ronald Regan did too, along with a bunch of other dead people.

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