# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1101 "2024-06-26T01:54:29Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is he somehow claiming that hundreds of thousands of American citizens are dying at the border every year??

I’m not sure he even knows. “Think about it” is one of the interjections he throws out when he’s lost his train of thought and is trying to compensate, but he didn’t really make any sense there - they’re “coming over our border because of the border”?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1102 "2024-06-26T01:56:03Z")

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I knew the “hundreds of thousands” was bullshit. I was questioning his use of the word “we”.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1103 "2024-06-26T01:56:43Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Trump misspoke in saying that hundreds of thousands are dying annually when trying to enter the U.S. from Mexico. He quickly corrected himself, as he meant to say that hundreds of thousands are entering annually.

I didn’t know what Trump was trying to communicate. And so frequently Trump’s people have to clarify what Trump meant which to me is a big, big problem for someone who wants to be president.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1104 "2024-06-26T01:57:53Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> . . . but he didn’t really make any sense there - they’re “coming over our border because of the border”?

He’s repeating himself. Are people going to vote against someone because they repeat themselves?

Sadly, this is the kind of thing that a lot of commentators are going to focus on after the debate.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1105 "2024-06-26T01:59:11Z")

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It sounded like dead people are crossing our border.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1106 "2024-06-26T02:05:08Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I was questioning his use of the word “we”.

It is “we” as in we the kind of Americans who may dislike undocumented migrants, but not to the extent of wanting them dead.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1107 "2024-06-26T02:06:38Z")

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I suppose it could mean that.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1108 "2024-06-26T02:08:10Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> He’s repeating himself.

“Hundreds of thousands of people are dying at our border, they’re coming over our border because of our border” isn’t repetition for emphasis, it’s repetition because the speaker has forgotten what they were talking about. Do remember that this is just a few minutes before he apparently fell asleep mid-interview.

Also not to be confused with the kind of repetition where you tell a complete story from beginning to end, then repeat the exact same story over again as if you hadn’t just said the same thing.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/vf3b1AJNAR8/hqdefault.jpg "Donald Trump Claims Protestors Are Assaulting Cops With Cans Of Soup") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf3b1AJNAR8)

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1109 "2024-06-26T03:54:55Z")

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I think what he meant to say was they’re coming over the border because Biden is weak on the border and if Trump was in charge they wouldn’t dare to try.

Of course he is also not mentioning the part where there was bipartisan border legislation all teed up and ready to go that he shit on because he didn’t want Biden to get a win.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1110 "2024-06-26T17:32:26Z")

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Not too sure if “He is, at times, easier to understand than Beat Poetry” rises to the level of a defense of Trump, but here we are. 😵‍💫

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1111 "2024-06-26T17:34:32Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Sadly, this is the kind of thing that a lot of commentators are going to focus on after the debate

Why ‘sadly’? The Trump team has made it a consistent drumbeat about Biden’s acuity. Why should the commentators _not_ remark that Trump is displaying the very same… if not worse… cognitive issues which his team has spent a year beating up Biden about?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1112 "2024-06-26T17:37:29Z")

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Is there any kind of basis to this at all? Has there been a specific incident of someone throwing soup? Or frozen water?

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1113 "2024-06-26T17:45:12Z")

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My guess was that he was starting to say that hundreds of people are dying as they try to cross the border, but then he realized that “hundreds” doesn’t sound like that big a deal and so he tacked on thousands, but then also realized that hundreds of thousands of people dying at the border is obviously false, so he tried to correct it to hundreds of thousands of people crossing the border at which point he realized he’d made a hash of the whole thing and just gave up.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1114 "2024-06-26T18:13:32Z")

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No, I think he tried to say that hundreds of thousands of people are crossing the border, but tripped up, and said “dying” instead.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1115 "2024-06-26T18:18:16Z")

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Maybe he was referring to the hundreds of thousands of people who are dying to cross the border?

(Have you heard about the new cemetery? People are dying to get in there!)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1116 "2024-06-26T18:54:00Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> And so frequently Trump’s people have to clarify what Trump meant which to me is a big, big problem for someone who wants to be president.

The way this lines up with the human history of theocracies is notable. The God’s “people” (the priest class) rule the populace via claiming to know what the God is saying.

The fact that millions of Americans find this to be an acceptable situation–an unintelligible would-be President, being interpreted by his priest class–is mind-blowing.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1117 "2024-06-26T19:24:31Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> The fact that millions of Americans find this to be an acceptable situation–an unintelligible would-be President, being interpreted by his priest class–is mind-blowing.

Trump then is like [Azathoth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azathoth) from the Cthulhu Mythos. An all-powerful “idiot god” that represents pure chaos.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1118 "2024-06-26T19:29:52Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Trump then is like [Azathoth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azathoth) from the Cthulhu Mythos. An all-powerful “idiot god” that represents pure chaos.

Certainly no one on the planet is better qualified for the position.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1119 "2024-06-26T21:25:56Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Is there any kind of basis to this at all? Has there been a specific incident of someone throwing soup? Or frozen water?

That was a clip from when he was still president. He was referencing all of the protests that were ongoing during his term.

(I’ve long ago seen people mocking the soup reference)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/S6KerAa6uIw/maxresdefault.jpg "TikTokers Hilariously Recreate Trump's Rants | NowThis") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6KerAa6uIw)

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1120 "2024-06-26T21:57:42Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Has there been a specific incident of someone throwing soup?

No, no, this is soup for my family.

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