# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1121 "2024-06-27T00:06:40Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> > [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> > Sadly, this is the kind of thing that a lot of commentators are going to focus on after the debate
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> Why ‘sadly’?

I’m not sure, which is why I’m taking a while to respond.

Maybe you are correct that Trump’s arguably confusing verbiage (definitely confusing to many of his detractors!) will bite him, especially when made into sound bites. But Biden will also say something that sounds weird, especially if taken out of context. I doubt a focus on who has the most senior moments helps the candidate running as the adult in the room, but who knows?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1122 "2024-06-27T00:09:46Z")

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We are _long_ past the “They both do it, so let’s look somewhere else” stage.  
Nice try.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1123 "2024-06-27T00:22:35Z")

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Swing/uncertain voters aren’t going to count the number of examples of arguably confusing statements from each. Fighting against bothsidesism, on this one, only works with those already committed to voting for Biden.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1124 "2024-06-27T00:32:38Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Fighting against bothsidesism, on this one, only works with those already committed to voting for Biden.

That contains too many negations for me to parse your actual contention.

I might agree with you; I might not. But since I can’t figure out what you mean, I have no way to decide.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1125 "2024-06-27T01:42:18Z")

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Great, now **we** are confusing one another…

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1126 "2024-06-27T21:06:24Z")

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It’s confusion all the way down. Even the turtles are confused.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1127 "2024-06-27T22:46:55Z")

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I hope Biden is debate prepping as much as Trump for the most important question Tapper will be asking: Would you prefer to be electrocuted because of a sinking e-boat or die by jumping over by a shark.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1128 "2024-06-28T22:38:04Z")

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Democrats: Biden sounds old, he should drop out  
Trump: Electric planes fall out of the sky when it’s cloudy

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1806786821311082854>

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1129 "2024-06-28T22:46:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump: Electric planes fall out of the sky when it’s cloudy

He didn’t say that it’s cloudy, he said “the sun isn’t shining” which could also include nighttime.

There are aircraft that use solar power, such as the NASA Pathfinder.

> **[Where Are They Now: Pathfinder Plus - NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/where-are-they-now-pathfinder-plus/)**
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> During 1998, the Pathfinder was modified into the longer-winged Pathfinder-Plus configuration. On Aug. 6, 1998, the modified aircraft was flown to a record altitude of 80,201 feet for propeller-driven aircraft on the third of a series of...

[![](https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/NASA-Pathfinder/IMAGES/NASA-Pathfinder-Plus-Title.jpg) ](https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/NASA-Pathfinder/IMAGES/NASA-Pathfinder-Plus-Title.jpg)

It has a backup battery to handle conditions where there is inadequate sunlight, and of course it’s unmanned. I’m not aware of any plans for manned aircraft to rely on solar power.

Trump does this often. He hears something, comes up with a potential problem based solely on speculation, then acts like this is some issue that he came up with himself because he’s a genius that none of the “experts” have thought of or are choosing to ignore. He loves him a good strawman, it’s easy for tiny hands to push over I guess.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1130 "2024-07-10T20:24:44Z")

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Pundits: Biden sounds old, he should resign  
Trump: Biden made bacon illegal and is too chicken to fight me in Hell In A Cell

> **['We don't eat bacon anymore': Rally witness claims Trump rants are getting...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-rally-2668721756/)**
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> Former President Donald Trump's campaign rally in South Florida was a sign that his rants are getting even more bizarre than ever, wrote Richard Luscombe for The Guardian after witnessing the event.In addition to all of his usual greatest hits, like...

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1131 "2024-07-10T20:35:37Z")

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My father-in-law was at baseline a very inappropriate person, may he rest in peace. He ended up, before he died with a brain bleed from a fall, having many small strokes of his frontal lobes. It took a while to get it investigated as the main presentation is often disinhibition with the saying and doing inappropriate things. Basically that was hard to notice in him.

I don’t know if there is something like that going on in Trump. But just like in my FIL it would be hard to notice. Meanwhile, Trump confused and inappropriate is not a news item anymore than Francisco Franco is still dead would be.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1132 "2024-07-10T20:39:00Z")

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> The former president’s rally, held at his Doral golf club, was notable for Trump challenging Biden to another debate with “no moderators” and “no holds barred,” as well as **an 18-round golf course that would end with him giving $1 million to the charity of Biden’s choice if Biden defeated him**.

Presumably after Moose and Rocco help Trump find his checkbook.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1133 "2024-07-10T20:56:44Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Meanwhile, Trump confused and inappropriate is not a news item anymore than Francisco Franco is still dead would be.

Yeah, but look at him walk funny! Doesn’t he look ol? Clearly he’s too old and looks old and is old and there needs to be eight front-page stories in the New York Times about how old he is.

> <https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1811113514188108164>

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1134 "2024-07-11T12:13:44Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Pundits: Biden sounds old, he should resign  
> Trump: Biden made bacon illegal and is too chicken to fight me in Hell In A Cell

Why aren’t the Dems just running clips of this stuff as ads, nonstop?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1135 "2024-07-11T14:55:35Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> Why aren’t the Dems just running clips of this stuff as ads, nonstop?

Because the idiots don’t want to “go negative”.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1136 "2024-07-11T14:57:01Z")

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A summary of Trump’s Doral rally. It’s going great, folks.

> <https://x.com/ArtCandee/status/1810850893618704877>

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1137 "2024-07-11T17:00:09Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> > [@OldOlds](#):
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> > Why aren’t the Dems just running clips of this stuff as ads, nonstop?
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> Because the idiots don’t want to “go negative”.

I don’t think so. I think it’s more that Dems know that Trump’s fans **don’t care** if he makes sense. They just care that he’s providing them the white-male-Christian-straight supremacism that they crave.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1138 "2024-07-11T17:27:20Z")

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And the voters up for grabs? Repeat the nonsense and they just are more likely to think “yeah I heard that, must be some truth to it.”

These are voters who blame Biden for the death of Roe v Wade. They are not dumb but they _are_ incredibly uninformed and uninterested in making any effort to become informed.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1139 "2024-07-11T17:35:48Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I don’t think so. I think it’s more that Dems know that Trump’s fans **don’t care** if he makes sense. They just care that he’s providing them the white-male-Christian-straight supremacism that they crave.

But as we’ve discussed, with these two candidates the election comes down to the 10% that can be persuaded to either vote a certain way or not vote at all.

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**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1140 "2024-07-11T20:02:33Z")

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Given the attention span of the average voter, I have a feeling that any attack ads run now would be a waste of resources (I seem to recall someone saying that the real campaign doesn’t start until after Labor Day). Better to stockpile “Best of …” quotes — and possibly use focus groups to determine which have the most impact — during the summer, then unleash them closer to the election.

If the Dems _don’t_ take advantage of the cornucopia they’ve been handed, they deserve to lose; unfortunately, they’d take the rest of us with them.

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