# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/101 "2024-01-26T19:56:33Z")

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Is a bear Catholic?  
Does the Pope Poop inna woods?  
HELL YES, HE’S CONFUSED!  
I can’t tell if this is recent or long-term, though.

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**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/102 "2024-01-26T22:36:25Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Less likely, but not impossible: on right wing media here in the UK there is a talking point of banks being political / woke since Nigel Farage got booted by his bank. (I won’t comment on whether this is valid, as I don’t want to hijack)  
> It’s unusual for a UK talking point to spread to the US – rather than the other way round – but not inconceivable.

Nigel has been supporting Trump at a few of his rallies and bragging about their close friendship. So it’s possible he’d been moaning to Trump about his bank issues in the hours before this speech and it kind of stuck in his head.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/103 "2024-01-27T01:45:31Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> on right wing media here in the UK there is a talking point of banks being political / woke since Nigel Farage got booted by his bank. (I won’t comment on whether this is valid, as I don’t want to hijack)

Reading this back, I want to clarify on the underlined part.

There’s no evidence of the banks being political, let alone “woke”.  
The thing I’m not commenting on is Farage’s specific case.

Just want to be clear that I not a believer in the woke boogieman 🙂

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/104 "2024-01-27T03:24:23Z")

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> [@Eric1](#):
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> It’s too bad he doesn’t just take off time with his family when he doesn’t have physically be on the campaign trail or in court. He could be with Ivanka and his grandkids eating some kosher pickles and matzo ball soup for God’s sake.

I hope at some point a judge mentions this to him when he starts frothing at the mouth about “political interference”. Dude, you’re the one who decided to run for President. Is this how you want to spend the rest of your life, Trump?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/105 "2024-01-27T18:21:17Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> I guess. The full quote: “ We are an institute in a powerful death penalty. We will put this on.” That doesn’t seem like a slip of the tongue. That sounds like my grandfather just before he passed, like someone struggling to articulate his thoughts.

It sounds like the the advertising copy for some tchotchke on Temu.

_Gradient is a phenomenon with strong regularity, which can generate a sense of perspective and space when applied in visual design_ for [this](https://www.temu.com/amazing-kids-handmade-science-experiment-toy-visual-magic-window-educational-toy-g-601099540771617.html?top_gallery_url=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.kwcdn.com%2Fproduct%2Ffancy%2F453f0593-3071-4eca-a832-8f7ec0a3828a.jpg&spec_gallery_id=2077073047&refer_page_sn=10132&refer_source=0&freesia_scene=116&_oak_freesia_scene=116&_oak_rec_ext_1=NDU3&refer_page_el_sn=201401&_x_channel_scene=spike&_x_channel_src=1&_x_sessn_id=jyic82r0ug&refer_page_name=lightning-deals&refer_page_id=10132_1706378469381_gu18pq6dyj).

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> We don’t need to make up _ad hoc_ things that maybe he meant.

That way lies madness.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/106 "2024-01-28T14:06:12Z")

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> > [@pulykamell](#):
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> > “De-bank” I have no clue, though.
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> Maybe he meant “[un-bank](https://stanford.overdrive.com/media/2552537)”?

It’s like people using “disinterested” (impartial) when they mean “uninterested” (not into).

> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Problem is, he doesn’t know what he’s saying; it’s just words he’s recognizing and then parroting

So Trump is Chat-GPT?

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/107 "2024-01-28T14:21:00Z")

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But without the intelligence.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/108 "2024-01-28T15:01:44Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> It’s like people using “disinterested” (impartial) when they mean “uninterested” (not into).

If that’s all it is, that’s a normal misapprehension. But I’ve never heard “un-bank” before and wonder if that is really what he meant.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/109 "2024-01-28T15:17:50Z")

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Tangentially related: a political commentator on NPR just referred to Trump’s speech last night as a typical “sidewinder” of a speech.

I think she meant “stemwinder” (a speech that’s either rousing or long and boring, depending on whether you go with definition (1) or (2)). But given the way Trump’s mind works, “[sidewinder](https://www.facebook.com/brutnature/videos/200787497472362/)” is probably the perfect description.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/110 "2024-01-28T15:24:33Z")

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In the financial services industry, “unbanked” is a real word – an adjective, describing people who do not have a bank account and are therefore hard to reach through normal service channels. But I doubt that Trump was saying that “they” are trying to take away your bank account.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/111 "2024-01-29T01:30:07Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Obama saying there were 57 states was a nothing

Because there are 50 states and 7 territories. He was just stumbling over a higher level of knowledge than most people have.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/112 "2024-01-29T01:34:15Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Because there are 50 states and 7 territories.

Try [8 territories](https://www.cdc.gov/islandaffairs/territories-states.html) including Puerto Rico.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/113 "2024-01-29T01:37:26Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If Ronald Reagan spoke like Trump does now, both Democrats and Republicans would have worked to remove him from office, quietly…but fast.

I spent a great deal of time in the Reagan White House. Trust me, he often did not know what was going on, especially during the second term. That’s why they would suddenly fly him off to the ranch or Camp David. He was just the spokesmodel anyway.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/114 "2024-01-29T02:01:28Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Try [8 territories](https://www.cdc.gov/islandaffairs/territories-states.html) including Puerto Rico.

Point of SDMSB nitpickery:  
The Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, and Republic of Palau are **not** US Territories, they are sovereign members of the UN associated by compact to the US.

The US besides the 50 states comprises the following permanently-inhabited jurisdictions with elected civil governments:  
One Federal District (District of Columbia)  
Five Unincorporated Territories: US Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa and the “commonwealths” of Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands.

(Plus one uninhabited Incorporated Territory (Palmyra), a scattering of islands with no permanent native population (Wake, Midway, etc.), and a significant number of sovereign native nations that are contained within the nominal boundaries of the states)

Carry on.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/115 "2024-01-29T02:07:34Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Try [8 territories](https://www.cdc.gov/islandaffairs/territories-states.html) including Puerto Rico.

Well, actually, having looked it up, it’s changed a bit since I went to school. There are 14, plus 2 disputed. But it’s super weird that neither of our lists includes Kwajalein, which was part of the list I had to memorize.

> **[List of states and territories of the United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories_of_the_United_States)**
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> The United States of America is a federal republic consisting of 50 states, a federal district (Washington, D.C., the capital city of the United States), five major territories, and various minor islands. Both the states and the United States as a whole are each sovereign jurisdictions. The Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution allows states to exercise all powers of government not delegated to the federal government. Each state has its own constitution and government, and The ...

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Kwajalein

Kwajalein is part of the Republic of the Marshall Islands since the dissolution of the Pacific Trust Territory. All the various islands in the Trusteeship wound up part of either the NMI, FSM, Marshalls or Palau jurisdictions.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/117 "2024-01-29T02:10:23Z")

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Thank you. I feel Olde.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/118 "2024-01-29T02:11:28Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> I hope at some point a judge mentions this to him when he starts frothing at the mouth about “political interference”. Dude, you’re the one who decided to run for President. Is this how you want to spend the rest of your life, Trump?

No judge would say that. It would just confirm the Trumpy view that the courts have been politicised and don’t want him to run.

Judges are not cops, or critics. They are very careful to remain impartial and to appear impartial.

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/119 "2024-01-29T02:13:32Z")

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Didn’t Obama visit _forty_-seven states when he misspoke?

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**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/120 "2024-01-29T02:17:09Z")

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It was pretty clear from the audio that he started to say 50 then meant to correct it to 47 and it came out 57. It wasn’t confusion, it was simply mispeaking.

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