# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1414 "2024-08-10T04:34:27Z")

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Nobody did it before him? Shoot, there was a Doonesbury strip about [Reagan doing it](https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1984/10/26) and coming off badly. That was 1984.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1415 "2024-08-10T04:35:13Z")

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And nobody ever responds with “Fuck you, Princess”?  
Astounding.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1416 "2024-08-10T04:46:00Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> I think Harris’ most appropriate follow-ups during a debate would be, “Consider that answer. He DIDN’T answer the question. The part that was not gibberish, was entirely untrue. Is this the type of person you would want in ANY position of authority? Would you want him to be your boss? A police officer? If not, why would you want him to be the most powerful person in the world?”

I think this is a losing strategy. Because when Biden was the presumptive nominee and looking a little past his prime, i reassured myself that Reagan had been pretty effective Even after he was quite senile. And i have to think that voters who are afraid that the Democrats will push a dangerous agenda, regulating industry into knots, opening the floodgates to dangerous immigrants, and pushing a woke socialist agenda will tell themselves much the same thing.

To win, Harris needs to have a positive message that reassures moderate voters. She can’t just rely on “Trump is a senile old man”. That will help on the fringes, but it’s not enough.

There does seem to be a lot of evidence in this thread that Trump is a senile old man, though.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1417 "2024-08-10T05:09:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And nobody ever responds with “Fuck you, Princess”?  
> Astounding.

How 'bout "if quoting your own words back to you is rude, that’s really not my fault, is it?

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1418 "2024-08-10T05:10:50Z")

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Not sure if this was posted in full, but here’s Willie Brown’s full interview with reporters. I will never stop laughing at his laugh.

He goes into when he first met Trump, Kamala, it’s so refreshing to hear someone saying, no. Just, no.

[https://fox2now.com/video/willie-brown-refutes-trumps-claims-of-talking-negatively-about-kamala-harris/9937699/](https://fox2now.com/video/willie-brown-refutes-trumps-claims-of-talking-negatively-about-kamala-harris/9937699/)

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1419 "2024-08-10T05:12:58Z")

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This article doesn’t cover today’s events but it’s some different doctors from the usual ones talking about Trump’s increasingly obvious dementia:

> **[Analysis of Trump's Speech Finds Signs of Cognitive Decline](https://www.yahoo.com/news/analysis-trumps-speech-finds-signs-002952241.html)**
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> A group of experts are saying that Trump's speech patterns have deteriorated in recent years, a big sign of worsening cognitive health.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1420 "2024-08-10T05:18:40Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump: Willie Brown and I were in a helicopter that almost crashed  
> Willie Brown: I have never been in a helicopter with Donald Trump  
> Jerry Brown: I was in a helicopter with Trump but it never came anywhere near crashing

Ny brother told me a back story about this, I can’t remember where he read it. But it was that Trump was in a helicopter with Jerry Brown, looking at wild fires and Trump was very scared and kept asking it if was safe. Maybe Trump remembers it that way, maybe be made it up, doesn’t matter, it made me think of a question-

If you were in a battery powered helicopter (if we ever have them) and it had to make a crash landing in water near a shark, how would you rather die? From the impact, the shock, or the shark?

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1421 "2024-08-10T05:22:27Z")

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LOL! Make me a reporter, get me press access and I will ask that question.

It’s so funny. This happens and he’s all totally focused on suing people who say he’s lying. Not anything else. Straight-up guy, speaks the truth. Will drain the swamp. Yadda yadda.

Gavin Newsom also commented on Trump’s concern with crashing.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1422 "2024-08-10T05:24:35Z")

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This Atlantic article explains the challenge of reporting speeches which lack coherence. It is a double standard, compared to how Biden’s debate was reported.

> **[The Truth About Trump’s Press Conference](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/08/truth-about-trumps-press-conference/679425/?gift=FNE9XeXXKzu6Z_8urufLLv9v5YNUhRBaM42Ha8hf4QI&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)**
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> His obvious emotional instability is frightening, not funny.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1423 "2024-08-10T05:31:32Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> This article doesn’t cover today’s events but it’s some different doctors from the usual ones talking about Trump’s increasingly obvious dementia:

What I would find very concerning if I cared about Trump, is when he gets hung up on a word, seems to lose track of what he was saying, and quickly switches gears to talk about something completely unrelated.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1424 "2024-08-10T05:34:51Z")

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“And one of our greatest golfers in the history of. I’m a golfer, I love golf. This guy is a major golfer. He’s a major friend of mine, one of the best ever. They knighted him in in England or in UK. I’d like to bring him into government. Nick Faldo.”

(Faldo is retired, has never held office, and is not American)

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1822137749660430543>

“But with your vote, the reign will be over. That horrible reign of its. In a way, it’s a reign of terror, you know, it’s a weak reign. It’s an incompetent reign… It’s a very dangerous reign.”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1822128275482943999>

“He didn’t want the person deportated”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1822131054389723399>

“They did the NAFTA disaster conseeu, and think about that, we got out of TPP, do you know what TP?”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1822126875797553654>

“Onto the suh, on to the lives of our children”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1822137844405522852>

“Biden probably should get out, but she should get out. I think they should both get out. I’ll tell you what. Do we have a volunteer? Yes, I will volunteer. Okay.”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1822126693521473720>

He’s even worse than usual tonight. His brain is pudding.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1425 "2024-08-10T05:41:33Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “They did the NAFTA disaster conseeu, and think about that, we got out of TPP, do you know what TP?”

TP for my bunghole? Seriously, if he pulls his collar up over his head and starts doing a Cornholio routine, he will look comparatively sane.

Edit: video in case anyone is unfamiliar with the reference:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UYc08FxEMfs/maxresdefault.jpg "Beavis And Butthead Do The Universe: Cornholio Starts A Prison Riot") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYc08FxEMfs)

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1426 "2024-08-10T06:01:39Z")

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He’s just kidding. Wait till the debate. He’ll show Kamala she’s not really black, because he’s 110% black. And people like him will know that. /s

This is such a shit show. And I don’t feel bad for GOP whatsoever. Their only chance now is to have Orangboy tout about how great Project 2025 is and will reshape um, the United Trump, er, states or status will MAGA.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1427 "2024-08-10T06:24:37Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> #trumpisdone

Recalling multiple threads of yore, I would suggest #ForkTrump instead…

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1428 "2024-08-10T06:46:49Z")

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I wouldn’t fork him with a stolen couch.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1429 "2024-08-10T10:53:43Z")

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Thank you for linking that, it’s a fanatastic interview!

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1430 "2024-08-10T11:52:20Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Would you want him to be your boss

It’s funny you say that because one of the few tactics that I’ve found successful with MAGA friends and family in real life is to ask:  
Would you want to work for him? Would you want him working for you? Would you want to be married to him? Would you want your daughter to marry him? Would you like him as your next door neighbor?

With someone you know personally, who doesn’t want to outright lie to you, it almost always gets one of those demurring non answers.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1431 "2024-08-10T12:41:53Z")

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Helicopter-gate is solved.

[https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/09/trump-plane-crash-california-00173487](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/09/trump-plane-crash-california-00173487)

> [@](#):
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> The man who almost crashed in a helicopter with Donald Trump told POLITICO Trump confused him with former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown — despite the former president’s repeated insistence it was Brown.
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> It was Nate Holden, a former city councilman and state senator from Los Angeles, who said in an exclusive interview late Friday that he remembers the near-death experience well. He and others believe it happened sometime in 1990.
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> “Willie is the short Black guy living in San Francisco,” Holden said. “I’m a tall Black guy living in Los Angeles.
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> “I guess we all look alike,” Holden told POLITICO, letting out a loud laugh.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1432 "2024-08-10T14:49:19Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Helicopter-gate is solved.

On one hand it’s kind of refreshing to find out Trump wasn’t deliberately lying for a change. On the other hand the fact that he can’t correctly recall the incident doesn’t bode well for his mental state at all.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1433 "2024-08-10T15:04:18Z")

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This may however not be evidence of decline. He was in the helicopter with a Black male politician and his baseline function probably confused them all together. No joke there.

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