# Is Trump confused? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 76
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1534 "2024-08-12T15:21:28Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The Raw Story article is pretty critical > [@Stratocaster](#): > > There’s no way a four-years-further-diminished Trump, after losing two elections in a row, gets sufficient party support. I _think_ this is on-topic. Anyway, now _I’m_ confused. I shared the article **Northern\_Piper** shared, on my FB feed. I said it’s time to send Trump to a skilled nursing facility. To which a Trump Cultist replied [emojis removed by me]: > I agree, i personally don’t believe he’s going to be our next 4 year POTUS, I do believe we all have a huge surprise coming and we are all going to be very very happy, maybe sans a few TDS clowns So my on-topic question is, are even the most deeply-invested MAGAs seeing Trump as ‘confused’? Apologies if this next question is off-topic. The MAGA friend says she doesn’t believe Trump will be ‘our next 4 year POTUS’, but we’ll have ‘a huge surprise coming’. Any idea how I should parse this? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1535 "2024-08-12T15:22:48Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Supporting someone else? What’s in it for him? What could, hypothetically, be in it for him would be anointing a successor who would promise a full pardon. OTOH, that wouldn’t help Trump with his issues with the state courts, and it would require him to trust that person to follow through on their promise. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1536 "2024-08-12T15:23:52Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > The MAGA friend says she doesn’t believe Trump will be ‘our next 4 year POTUS’, but we’ll have ‘a huge surprise coming’. Any idea how I should parse this? Perhaps she thinks that Trump will be elected and subsequently resign? ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1537 "2024-08-12T15:25:33Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Supporting someone else? What’s in it for him? Never going to happen, supporting other people does not compute If he is not reelected, he will still have legal problems, and will need someone to pardon him.So he will make good use of all his cult-like powers as kingmaker. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1538 "2024-08-12T15:25:59Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Apologies if this next question is off-topic. The MAGA friend says she doesn’t believe Trump will be ‘our next 4 year POTUS’, but we’ll have ‘a huge surprise coming’. Any idea how I should parse this? Interesting that there seems to be even a tiny groundswell in MAGA world acknowledging his decline. I’ve seen it elsewhere. I’m guessing the surprise is some form of the normal MAGA idiocy, where everything will turn out they way they want, because reasons, probably that Don Jr. fills the void. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1539 "2024-08-12T15:26:25Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Perhaps she thinks that Trump will be elected and subsequently resign? Try to self pardon. Or get Vance to do it. NY had best kick his ass. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1540 "2024-08-12T15:31:18Z")
If he is not ~~re~~ elected whoever he makes “king” will not be president until 2028/29 at the earliest. What good is that to him? Kamala Harris sure won’t pardon him. I, on the other hand, would rejoice if he spent the next four years\* in jail and people congregated chanting “Four more years!” in front of the prison he was kept in. \* OK, make it three. Due process obstruction appeals and all that. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1541 "2024-08-12T15:55:00Z")
Trump can probably drag out his court cases for 3 or 4 years–and get sentenced just in time for the new Republican president to pardon him. So after he loses the election in November, out of desperation, he will spend more energy (and money) manipulating the Republican Party than he is currently investing in his camoaign. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1542 "2024-08-12T15:57:30Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > just in time for the new Republican president to pardon him. Again, remember that a presidential pardon only affects _federal_ crimes. Trump is awaiting sentencing for his conviction in a state trial (New York), and his trial on state charges in Georgia is still pending. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1543 "2024-08-12T16:03:06Z")
Statistics only, the average 79 year old American male might live eight years longer. Population statistics do not correlate to individual cases. But it is hard to see a vigorous Trump in 2032. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1544 "2024-08-12T16:11:07Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Again, remember that a presidential pardon only affects _federal_ crimes. Correct. What worries me is that the corrupt SCOTUS will some how try to intervene in the NY case. What gives me a bit of hope, is that Harris makes it in, well, she’s a prosecutor. _Perhaps_ she will have a bit of leverage. But I donno. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1545 "2024-08-12T16:32:54Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > I think he’s looking to make bank off the “Eating a Harris-Burger!” jokes You mispelled Harris-Burder. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1546 "2024-08-12T18:16:04Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Apologies if this next question is off-topic. The MAGA friend says she doesn’t believe Trump will be ‘our next 4 year POTUS’, but we’ll have ‘a huge surprise coming’. Any idea how I should parse this? My interpretation is a little scary. Maybe some MAGAs are hoping for a Trump loss that will ignite an armed right wing revolution and get rid of all of those parts of the Constitution they don’t like (like a “4 year POTUS”) in one fell swoop. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1547 "2024-08-12T18:25:02Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Maybe some MAGAs are hoping for a Trump loss that will ignite an armed right wing revolution Or a Trump win that does the same thing. It’s not like they actually care about elections. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1548 "2024-08-12T18:58:11Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > He’s not in great shape. I don’t expect him to be doing much in 4 years. Well, you’d be surprised at the amount of activity in a dead body. 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1549 "2024-08-12T19:41:19Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Well, you’d be surprised at the amount of activity in a dead body But how can we tell the difference between him being a living bloated gas bag, and a dead one? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1550 "2024-08-12T19:43:59Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But how can we tell the difference between him being a living bloated gas bag, and a dead one? The dead one talks less. 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1551 "2024-08-12T20:04:17Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But how can we tell the difference between him being a living bloated gas bag, and a dead one? There’s a joke in there somewhere about MAGAts pupating, hatching, and flying away, but I can’t quite formulate it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1552 "2024-08-12T22:51:25Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > He’s not in great shape. I don’t expect him to be doing much in 4 years. If we’re lucky, he’ll be Pushing Up Miss Daisy. He’s so freaking deluded that he thinks everyone will buy that silly claim that the Harris crowd was AI. It’s becoming unclear that he can differentiate between reality and what he imagines. He’s a pathetic shell of a person running on fumes in the cranium. Having him hold the nuclear football is even more terrifying, much more so than when he had a bit more of his marbles. As was said about Percy in The Green Mile, “I think this boy’s cheese has slid off his cracker”. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1553 "2024-08-13T00:41:44Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@Horatius](#): > > > > But how can we tell the difference between him being a living bloated gas bag, and a dead one? > > The dead one talks less. 🤪 But it’s more coherent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=75) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=77)