# Is Trump confused? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 78
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1574 "2024-08-13T03:51:44Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > I hear that a lot - pls explain how this can be a thing… > > If you rent any venue (for a congress, wedding, cultural show, etc…) you have to pay upfront and in full weeks ahead or you won’t have a venue … let alone for a person with a reputation as shady as weird uncle donald > > a headscratcher for me … I threw a wedding a couple of years ago. And i don’t remember exactly who we paid when. But we certainly paid a lot of money the day of the event. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1575 "2024-08-13T03:53:36Z")
Yes. Really there should be an Omnibus Stupid Trump Supporters thread, but there isn’t one. I’m sorry my tangential question has become a hijack. Here’s the exchange. We can probably drop this line of conversation though. **Her:** My God doesn’t lie. **Me:** So you admit that Trump is your God! I was wondering if you prayed to God before, or after Trump; or if you just left God out of it. Now I know. **Her:** I pray for you, that’s for certain. So, yeah. I called her out and she didn’t deny it. Then she denied it, and I posted the screen capture. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1576 "2024-08-13T03:56:07Z")
Heh, well trump is the only confused one in trump world. End of this discussion. Thanks for answering. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1577 "2024-08-13T03:57:17Z")
Trump sounds like he lost his two front teeth in all these clips. Did he have his dentures out for the interview? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1578 "2024-08-13T04:19:33Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Someone should tell Trump that Biden is no longer running… Nah. Let the collapse continue into even more dementia depths. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1579 "2024-08-13T04:34:49Z")
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**Author:** ![vbob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vbob/32/4439_2.png) [@vbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vbob)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1580 "2024-08-13T04:38:05Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > does not compute in his tiny 8088 I fear you are confused - Trump is clearly running on the even punier two-bit processor. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1581 "2024-08-13T05:23:56Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > If I lose I’m moving to Venezuela, you should come with me No, no, trump, Nazis move to _Argentina_, not Venezuela, geez… Man cant even get _that_ right. > [@MulderMuffin](#): > > Laura Cruz-Acosta, communications director for the City of El Paso confirmed Trump has an outstanding balance of $569,204.63 And that is for Police overtime- and trump claims he is for Law & Order? Maybe he likes the TV show? ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1582 "2024-08-13T05:42:04Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Trump sounds like he lost his two front teeth in all these clips. Did he have his dentures out for the interview? Yeah, I saw comments of him slurring his words, and I didn’t hear it initially. But the clips of his interview with Musk in this thread sure sound like he developed a lisp, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1583 "2024-08-13T10:36:52Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > No one ever heard of Venezuela until Trump discovered it. he didnt discover it, he **invented** it! ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1584 "2024-08-13T15:00:13Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Why Venezuela and not one of the many countries that no one has ever heard of? Venezuela is notoriously difficult to extradite fugitives from. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1585 "2024-08-13T15:28:37Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > If you rent any venue (for a congress, wedding, cultural show, etc…) you have to pay upfront and in full weeks ahead or you won’t have a venue … let alone for a person with a reputation as shady as weird uncle donald > > a headscratcher for me … The venues may be paid up front, but city fees for police and traffic control are probably billed after. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1586 "2024-08-13T15:30:23Z")
Venezuela is the world’s leader in the production of Miss Universe winners. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1587 "2024-08-13T15:31:27Z")
So…wife #4 once Melania divorces his ass? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1588 "2024-08-13T15:39:25Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > > [@MulderMuffin](#): > > > > But it’s well-known that he stiffs the cities and venue owners when it comes to paying the bills for the extra police presence and rental fees. > > I hear that a lot - pls explain how this can be a thing… > > If you rent any venue (for a congress, wedding, cultural show, etc…) you have to pay upfront and in full weeks ahead or you won’t have a venue … let alone for a person with a reputation as shady as weird uncle donald > > a headscratcher for me … AFAIK the unpaid police bills are typically the cities asking for _voluntary_ reimbursement. This isn’t a new Trump thing, I remember stories about the Obama and Romney campaigns having “unpaid bills” from various cities. It’s one of those quadrennial things like musicians kicking up a fuss about their music (that they signed away the rights to) being used by the campaigns (which bought a license to use the music). ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1589 "2024-08-13T16:00:19Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > It’s one of those quadrennial things like musicians kicking up a fuss about their music (that they signed away the rights to) being used by the campaigns (which bought a license to use the music). A lot of the time they _don’t_ buy a license to use the music, which is the problem. It tends not to be worth the artists suing because the cost of litigation is _way_ higher than than the pennies they’d get in royalties, but that doesn’t mean they’re not losing out. A useful piece on the use of unauthorized music from previous years: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32n4h0kn-88](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32n4h0kn-88) ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1590 "2024-08-13T16:31:15Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > It’s one of those quadrennial things like musicians kicking up a fuss about their music (that they signed away the rights to) being used by the campaigns (which bought a license to use the music). This article, which I cited in the schadenfreude thread, says that the standard ASCAP, BMI, etc. licenses specifically exclude political uses. > **[Can Donald Trump or Joe Biden play whatever music they want at a rally or...](https://news.northeastern.edu/2024/07/17/music-at-political-rallies-trump/)** > > Expert explains the complicated legality of Donald Trump and Joe Biden playing music at political rallies. > Public venues like stadiums or arenas typically have already secured their own public performance licenses from performing rights organizations like the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers. Those licenses include access to hundreds of thousands of songs and typically apply to any event organizer that uses that venue, whether it’s for a sporting event or performance. > > However, those licenses generally exclude political events, so campaigns would need to get their own license from an organization like ASCAP or go directly to the record label or whoever owns the copyrights to get the rights to a particular song, Reputable politicians (ie, Democrats) usually get permission from the artist, and often are explicitly endorsed by them. I can’t recall the last time I heard about an artist complaining that a Democrat used their music, but you hear complaints about Republicans all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1591 "2024-08-13T16:46:09Z")
In the John Oliver piece it mentions the Clinton campaign (Hillary, not Bill) getting dinged for using a song without permission. But it is usually the Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1592 "2024-08-13T16:58:08Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > In the John Oliver piece it mentions the Clinton campaign (Hillary, not Bill) getting dinged for using a song without permission. Also Obama. > **[35 musicians who famously told politicians: Don't use my song](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2018/07/16/35-musicians-who-famously-told-politicians-dont-use-my-song/784121002/)** > > Campaign songs have been in use since the days of George Washington. Politicians today often rely on popular hits, but because that can imply a musician supports the candidate, names like Adele, Bruce Springsteen and Abba have asked politicians to... > **Song:** “Hold On I’m Coming” > **Politician:** Barack Obama > **Outcome:** Democrats have been asked to stop playing music as well. In 2008, Sam Moore of Sam & Dave asked Obama to refrain from playing his “Hold On I’m Coming” for fear it would look like the singer had endorsed the candidate. The Obama campaign agreed to stop. As noted, Obama was classy and stopped when asked. Trump appears in that article more than any other politician. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1593 "2024-08-13T16:59:06Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > It’s one of those quadrennial things like musicians kicking up a fuss about their music (that they signed away the rights to) being used by the campaigns (which bought a license to use the music). Yeah I remember this at as far back as Bush Jr. AFAIK the complaints never go further than a public statement by the artist, no one actually gets sued. Its usually combined with an utter disregard for the actual lyrics of the song. Like has any Republican actually listened to Born In USA or Keep on Rocking in the Free World before they played them at their rallies? Though the recent Titanic soundtrack Snafu by Trump’s people was particularly hilarious. I mean that song is synonymous with one thing and one thing only: a catastrophic sinking ship. Its not like it has a patriotic sounding chorus that is a only thing people know, you only need to hear a few bars to think “oh it’s the ship sinking song” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=77) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589.md?page=79)