# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1694 "2024-08-19T02:44:18Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> I’d compare it to going to a live football match.  
> You’re not there to watch the game, find out the result or learn more about football, you’re there to enjoy the atmosphere, to cheer, hoot and holler.

Oh, dear. I’ve been doing football wrong my whole life. 😒

I’m the odd dude who sits there quietly watching the game, never getting too excited, clapping, and occasionally saying helpful things like, “get him!” or "there you go! "

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1695 "2024-08-19T02:48:51Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> I’m the odd dude who sits there quietly watching the game, never getting too excited, clapping, and occasionally saying helpful things like, “get him!” or "there you go! "

Are you Tim Walz? 😉

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1696 "2024-08-19T03:25:02Z")

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> [@2nd\_Law](#):
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> the more I have to wonder if he is preparing to use a diminished capacity defense at his multiple trials after he loses the election.

Impossible. He’s a Very Stable Genius. Probably the most stable genius God has ever created. Nobody has ever had a greater capacity.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1697 "2024-08-19T03:53:05Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> . Either this Wharton grad really has dementia, or he knows that at least 50% of Americans are so stupid,

Let me make this clear- less than 47% of voted voted for trump in 2020. Not 50%, not more than 50%- _less than_ 50%.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1698 "2024-08-19T06:45:14Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> I’m the odd dude who sits there quietly watching the game, never getting too excited, clapping, and occasionally saying helpful things like, “get him!” or "there you go! "

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ESVjzf4FzyU/hqdefault.jpg "IT Crowd Football Match") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESVjzf4FzyU)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1699 "2024-08-19T20:49:18Z")

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“We’re going to bring up electronics too. Electronics. We buy everything away. When you see the sophistication of the product I just saw at this place. Electronics is peanuts”

> <https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1825626340495687782>

“If you go back 70 years, our greatest country, greatest company by far was the United States steel”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825622462085898589>

“If you’d like to go here to let’s say Washington to look after we fix it up, make it safe again which will take approximately like quickly”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825619506619888023>

“Kamala is on a regutory regulatory jihad”

[https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825616025825755494](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825616025825755494)

“If you steal $950 are less, they will leave you alone. We see criminals going into stores with little computer adding it up. They don’t get prosecuted above that. The only one who gets prosecuted is somebody talk about the unfair election”

[https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825613137107960294](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825613137107960294)

“Everybody was better off when you had a gentleman named President Donald Trump at the helm. Does anybody know him? Whoever he may be”

[https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825611151490900045](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825611151490900045)

“What would happen if we had a war? We won’t, with me. But you will have World War 3 I believe without me. But we won’t have. But what would happen if we did?”

[https://x.com/atrupar/status/1825622280497406349](https://x.com/atrupar/status/1825622280497406349)

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1700 "2024-08-19T20:52:41Z")

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trump says we dont need to even have an election!

> **[Trump’s unsettling new question: ‘Why are we having an election?’](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-unsettling-new-question-are-election-rcna167196)**
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> Given Donald Trump's hostility toward democracy, it's worth pausing when he asks supporters, "Why are we having an election?”

_“You know, they do polls on this stuff, and I’m at like 93%,” [Trump said](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNBWYGOGw7s), referring to surveys that apparently exist in his imagination. “I said, ‘So why are we having an election? They didn’t have an election. Why are we having an election?’”_

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1701 "2024-08-19T21:03:17Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> They didn’t have an election.

I wonder what “they” refers to. Putin, Orbán, and Kim Jong Un?

…I like the photos in Smapti’s round-up of Donald’s latest brain mis-fires–that official in the back is _definitely_ giving Donald the side-eye.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1702 "2024-08-19T21:56:01Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I wonder what “they” refers to. Putin, Orbán, and Kim Jong Un?

IMHO, Trump does not understand the difference between primary ‘’‘elections’‘’ and the general election.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1703 "2024-08-19T21:58:06Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> While I do think his weird backwards fixation on tariffs is simply a result of his progressing dementia, if he’s been at this for a long time it makes me think something else could be at play here

I would blame it on the following. While it is the case that the cost of higher tariffs in the end come from the consumer, they also aren’t good for the businesses on which they are imposed because with artificially high prices, they lose sales, which is why they are often used as a threat to compel behavior. Now Trump views all negotiations as zero sum games. One side wins the deal only if the other side loses, and vice versa. So if tariffs are bad for China they must be good for the US.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1704 "2024-08-19T22:06:30Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> IMHO, Trump does not understand the difference between primary ‘’‘elections’‘’ and the general election.

Or possibly he’s a “senior moment” and thinks that he is currently still running in the primary.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1705 "2024-08-19T22:18:18Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> One side wins the deal only if the other side loses, and vice versa. So if tariffs are bad for China they must be good for the US.

Except that both sides lose, if you’re just looking at the money issues.

One legitimate reason for using tariffs is to protect local industry against foreign competition, particularly for things that that are of critical importance to national defence. This is why there’s usually an exception for such things in the trade treaties. You can’t buy steel from China if you’re at war with them.

But that works by letting the national industries _charge their customers more_ for the same product. Without the tariff, it would cost $X. With the tariffs, you choose between Chinese products at $1.2X, or American products at $1.15X. You still pay more as the consumer. A good idea if it really is critical, but still a drain on resources, and if not actually critical, that drain is compounded.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1706 "2024-08-20T00:05:16Z")

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nevermind off topic.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1707 "2024-08-20T00:30:34Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Good God, he thinks supply chains are literal, actual chains, doesn’t he?

I think he thinks they’re actual _trains._

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1708 "2024-08-20T00:39:06Z")

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It should have been less than ten percent, and they should be voting while he was in prison. Your “less than fifty percent” is less of a brag and more of a major embarrassment.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1709 "2024-08-20T00:50:03Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> > [@DWMarch](#):
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> > > [@Smapti](#):
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> > > We will bring back supply chains to stop supply chain costly disruptions.
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> > Good God, he thinks supply chains are literal, actual chains, doesn’t he?
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> I think he thinks they’re actual _trains._

They’re a series of tubes!

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1710 "2024-08-20T00:54:45Z")

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A subway?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1711 "2024-08-20T11:01:11Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > [@DrDeth](#):
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> > They didn’t have an election.
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> I wonder what “they” refers to. Putin, Orbán, and Kim Jong Un?

The Democrats didn’t have an election to pick Kamela.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1712 "2024-08-20T11:06:51Z")

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They’re having a convention _right now_ to pick their candidate for the general election. Which will be Harris.

And which is how it’s been done for a while now. Each party gets to decide the mechanism by which it selects its own candidate.

Also: the party of “We want to destroy democracy” can stfu about the Democratic primaries.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1713 "2024-08-20T11:14:28Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Each party gets to decide the mechanism by which it selects its own candidate.

The overwhelming majority of this board (at least) can remember when neither party did it by holding primaries.  
And the number of times I’ve seen complaints that the Democratic Party should _pick_ better candidates suggests that some folks wouldn’t mind going back to ‘smoke filled rooms’ and ‘party bosses’ selecting the candidate(s).

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