# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1714 "2024-08-20T12:49:19Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Also: the party of “We want to destroy democracy” can stfu about the Democratic primaries.

The funny thing is, it’s the RWNJs that are spouting whenever they get the chance that we are not a democracy, we are a republic (as if they know what any of that means). They keep saying that a democracy is a terrible idea, which is why you won’t find any democracies as a system of government in the world.

Of course, they refuse to understand the differences between the idea of a true democracy and that of a democratic form of government. Except, apparently, when they can use it to accuse their enemies.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1715 "2024-08-20T12:56:11Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> some folks wouldn’t mind going back to ‘smoke filled rooms’ and ‘party bosses’ selecting the candidate(s).

To paraphrase P. J. O’Rourke, they’re corrupt, but they’re corrupt within normal parameters.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1716 "2024-08-20T13:57:48Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> The funny thing is, it’s the RWNJs that are spouting whenever they get the chance that we are not a democracy, we are a republic

No.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/X9jb8DywH2s/hqdefault.jpg "Bartlet on representative democracy") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9jb8DywH2s)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1717 "2024-08-20T16:03:20Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> IMHO, Trump does not understand the difference between primary ‘’‘elections’‘’ and the general election.

Yes, I see now—likely “they” referred to the Democrats (as @Peter_Morris also said).

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1718 "2024-08-20T17:58:23Z")

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That’s because Trump is an idiot, though he will never admit it. He claims to be a “very stable genius” (and Kamala is the dumb one).

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1719 "2024-08-20T19:40:31Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> The overwhelming majority of this board (at least) can remember when neither party did it by holding primaries.

No, there were primaries as long as I could remember. Just that in the past, without media interference- sometimes there wasnt a clear victor, so it was decided at the Convention.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1720 "2024-08-20T19:54:51Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> The overwhelming majority of this board (at least) can remember when neither party did it by holding primaries.

I’m 71, and as far back as I can remember, there were some primary elections. Now, to be sure, they were only in a handful of states (maybe 15-20?), but there were always some primaries. IIRC, New Hampshire was always the first, just as it is today.

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1721 "2024-08-20T20:36:11Z")

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From this source:

> **[A brief history of presidential primaries | Constitution Center](https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/a-brief-history-of-presidential-primaries)**
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> On Tuesday, March 5, voters in 15 states will play a major role in selecting the two major party candidates in this year’s presidential election. The Super Tuesday primaries represent an evolution from a system that once relied on congressional...

My summary: It looks like there have been primaries since the early 1900’s, but they had little to do with the selection of candidates until after WWII, were not a major factor until the 70’s, and their role in nomination was not codified until the mid 70’s.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1722 "2024-08-20T21:14:32Z")

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“Kamala Harris is the President”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825981288324456772>

“I keep hearing the suburban woman doesn’t like Trump. I think it’s a fake poll. Why wouldn’t they like me? I think they like me a lot”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825983183579414795>

“Dangerous to say these things. Maybe that’s why I get shot at… They’ll protect other people because they can’t believe they got so lucky”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825982278821929331>

“They lied last night about things nobody has ever seen”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825975905459777577>

“There’s been a report that the job numbers over the last period of time were fraudulent. I understand that because I know how the job numbers go. You want to be a bad person in high office, you can be a bad person but the numbers are going to be revised”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1825975227781910847>

“You can’t walk across the street to get a loaf of bread, you get shot, and you get mugged, you get raped, whatever it may be. You’ve seen it. I’ve seen it”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1825977688080662931>

“[The border wall] has a lot of technology, wires and things in it, for high technology”

> <https://x.com/atrupar/status/1825979991139692650>

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**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1723 "2024-08-20T21:29:34Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I’m 71, and as far back as I can remember, there were some primary elections.

For 30 years, due to being in a late-primary state my pres primary vote has mattered only once (in 2008) - there’s probably plenty of us who roll their eyes when Iowa, NH and SC don’t get their extra-special voice catered to for once.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1724 "2024-08-20T21:31:53Z")

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I’m in California, and our primaries have almost never (completely never?) ever counted for anything.

Oh, and I crossed a street yesterday, and I didn’t get shot or even raped. Must have been my lucky day.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1725 "2024-08-20T21:35:39Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “They lied last night about things nobody has ever seen”

This confirms that Trump watched the DNC. That makes me very happy.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1726 "2024-08-20T21:50:11Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> Oh, and I crossed a street yesterday, and I didn’t get shot or even raped. Must have been my lucky day.

Yes, but did you buy a loaf of bread? It’s the bread that attracts rapists.

Or seagulls. One of those.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1727 "2024-08-20T21:53:58Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> It’s the bread that attracts rapists.
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> Or seagulls. One of those.

Have you been raped by a seagull? You may be entitled to compensation!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1728 "2024-08-20T22:05:51Z")

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I swear he sounds less human than chat gpt.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1729 "2024-08-20T22:10:31Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I swear he sounds less human than chat gpt .

In a way, he is.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1730 "2024-08-20T22:39:26Z")

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Yeah. I dunno.

Statistically, that seems to imply that _you_ probably shot and/or raped somebody.

Because math.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1731 "2024-08-20T23:21:12Z")

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“Today was a good day.”

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1732 "2024-08-21T00:12:24Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Yes, but did you buy a loaf of bread?

“Buy”? Everyone knows you just steal it in California because they won’t prosecute you if it cost less than $950 or maybe $9500.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1733 "2024-08-21T00:14:18Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> if it cost less than $950

Have you SEEN the cost of bread lately? Thanks, Obama!

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