# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1754 "2024-08-22T18:51:09Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “there’s an incursion into Russia. There will be another incursion the other way… all of a sudden, bad things will start to happen”

So Ukraine went into Russia - after 3 years of all the fighting being in Ukraine.

So what is “the other way”? Russia invading Ukraine? Buuuut… Or Ukraine going into Poland? Or Russia going into Mongolia? Is that the other way? What the hell is he gibbering about?

But good heavens, we better nip all these incursions in the bud before something bad happens!

> [@Horatius](#):
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> Remember the good old days when all we had to parse was “unknown unknowns”?

And know how to spell “potatoe”. 😉

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> These are generally the same people who think they’re going to amaze us with their knowledge by pointing out that Lincoln was a Republican.

While they unironically fly their Confederate flag.

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I’ve never known of anyone who said or wrote “we’re not a democracy, we’re a republic” who wasn’t a RWNJ who thought stating this should make us treat him like he discovered gravity. What’s the fucking point anyway?

I _thought_ the point was that they didn’t want to say “democracy” because it has the word “democrat” in it. Instead, they get to say America is for Republicans because it’s a republic.

The sadly amusing thing is listening to some of the followers try to spout the rep. talking point without knowing the details.

“You don’t really want a democracy, those are bad because bad things happen.” Erm, what?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1755 "2024-08-22T20:32:29Z")

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“You guys are in danger with the kind of weaponry that we have but I felt it was important. And this kind of stuff they put to shield us, I’m going make you feel not so good”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1826705518016049576>

“We’re going to end up not having a country. You’re not going to have any media, we don’t have media, they don’t have media. They do their own media, they don’t need media”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1826704677733630198>

“We had drug climbers, they could get over a wall in— it’s so incredible with 75 pounds of drugs on their back, they could climb up things”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1826703547490336968>

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1756 "2024-08-22T21:45:30Z")

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This at least [doesn’t sound confused to me](https://www.thebulwark.com/p/donald-trump-i-hate-my-opponent-harris-debate-prep):

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> "I hate my opponents. Hillary, Joe, Kamala. It doesn’t matter. I just hate them.”

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1757 "2024-08-22T21:50:27Z")

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When that brain winks out for the last time, the final neural firings will certainly be hatred for perceived enemies.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1758 "2024-08-22T21:51:29Z")

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I’m finally going to look hip for that “Save The Drug Climbers” bumper sticker on my car.

Ha!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1759 "2024-08-23T00:29:29Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> So what is “the other way”? Russia invading Ukraine? Buuuut… Or Ukraine going into Poland? Or Russia going into Mongolia? Is that the other way? What the hell is he gibbering about?

What trump means is …

Ukraine counterattacking into Russia is deeply, deeply troubling to my sponsor, the Lord ~~Palpatine~~ Putin. So you can expect Putin to attack NATO or at least the West somehow in response. Or for Belarus or somebody to open yet another front against the side I hope to be President of. That would be bad (for me) because I exist only to serve my Lord Putin. And that’s harder to do when there’s lots of headlines that as US President I’m not fighting the USA’s enemy very hard.

Seems extremely obvious to me; I really wonder about all you folks who often can’t understand what trump means most of the time.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1760 "2024-08-23T00:57:31Z")

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I listen to NPR when I’m in the car, and I have to drive to court regularly as part of my job.

Today I heard NPR giving a midday news report. It included political news, naturally. They referenced the DNC, and played a snippet of Walz’s speech. Then the reporter said something about Trump campaigning, and then played _his sound bite_

> [@](#):
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> I’m much prettier that Kamala Harris. I think I’m better looking than her.

They offered no further commentary.

It was truly beautiful, and it’d be refreshing if all of the news organizations reported him this way.

Because I truly do believe that Trump has devolved into just being a ranty old man, who has no ideas or plan to govern, but is happy to whine and complain about everything and anything. He isn’t even _capable_ of discussing policy.

(He reminds me of my Uncle’s uncle, who I’d see as a kid. “Uncle Leo”. Picture an old man from New York, with bad hearing and hair sticking out of his nose. He had an opinion about _everything_, and that opinion was usually ‘they have no idea what they’re doing!’ My mom used to call he and his wife “The Bickersons”)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/m_7E5eNPhPk/maxresdefault.jpg "TRUMP on KAMALA HARRIS: "I am much better looking than her. I'm a better looking person than Kamala"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_7E5eNPhPk)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1761 "2024-08-23T01:20:48Z")

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The look on the faces of the folks behind trump is priceless. Not two functioning brain cells in any single head.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1762 "2024-08-23T01:27:36Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Seems extremely obvious to me; I really wonder about all you folks who often can’t understand what trump means most of the time.

In this case, I totally concur.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1763 "2024-08-23T02:22:24Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> (there is no such plane as an F-32)

That is _2_ F-16s for all you uninformed hippie civilians. Trump bless the jenius of Trump!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1764 "2024-08-23T12:44:10Z")

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There is an F-22. Sorta similar sounding number.

If you can’t read, keeping details straight is hard, since the only way to reinforce them in your memory is to talk w somebody knowledgeable. Not one of idjit trump’s habits.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1765 "2024-08-23T12:51:54Z")

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No matter how desperately we all wish that Trump could start a thread in GD or P&E, it’s all Pit threads, all the time.

Sigh.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1766 "2024-08-23T14:55:33Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> So what is “the other way”? Russia invading Ukraine? Buuuut… Or Ukraine going into Poland? Or Russia going into Mongolia? Is that the other way? What the hell is he gibbering about?
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> But good heavens, we better nip all these incursions in the bud before something bad happens!

Trump said that Putins invasion of Ukraine was a genius move. Gotta keep sucking up to Putin.

The ‘something bad happens’ probably refers to nukes. But Trump doesn’t understand why he shouldn’t use them.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1767 "2024-08-23T18:42:04Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Seems extremely obvious to me; I really wonder about all you folks who often can’t understand what trump means most of the time.

Yeah, I was playing up the vaguery of what he was saying. It is so vague, perhaps deliberately so, but it leads to gibberish.

I mean, Russia _already_ invaded Ukraine, and still had troops there. Sending in more soldiers doesn’t strike me as an incursion. That’s reinforcement, not a new entry. But if e go with the idea that “the other way” means Putin will respond with more troops to Ukraine, then saying bad things so happen is kinda dumb - bad things have _already_ happened.

So maybe he’s suggesting Putin will invade Poland or some other NATO country. Then yeah, no shit bad things will happen.

Ah, but maybe he’s trying to suggest Putin would use nukes. That’s just about as sure a way there is to ensure (a) Putin loses power, when the world is blown back to preondustrial age; or (b) Putin dies, because he will most certainly be a target of heavy bombardment. And if he survives all that, there are likely to be some seriously pissed off Russians who want a word with him.

Or maybe he has a different idea. Imcursion the other way could mean “the US will incur on Ukraine once I’m president.”

Any way you slice it , it comes up nuts.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1768 "2024-08-23T18:54:53Z")

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Trump is now saying that the northern border is being invaded.

> **[Canadians drag Trump for claiming US is facing threat of "invasion" from...](https://dailyhive.com/canada/canadians-drag-trump-invasion-canada)**
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> In a clip that has gone viral on X, Trump told Fox News that the US is being threatened by an "invasion" from Canada.

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**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1769 "2024-08-23T19:12:33Z")

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They must be fleeing the full-blown communist takeover Joe Rogan says we’re suffering under. Personally I hadn’t noticed.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1770 "2024-08-23T19:16:01Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Trump is now saying that the northern border is being invaded.

He’s finally found his winning strategy: _You can’t be ‘racist’ against “Canadians”_ 😃

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1771 "2024-08-23T19:22:31Z")

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> [@TheTooth](#):
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> They must be fleeing the full-blown communist takeover Joe Rogan says we’re suffering under.

They’re coming here for our economical health care.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1772 "2024-08-23T19:25:33Z")

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“When Canada sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re bringing poutine. They’re bringing Timbits. They’re hockey fans. And some, I assume, are good people.”

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1773 "2024-08-23T21:58:10Z")

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Will we have to start building igloos to house all the immigrants?  
🥶

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