# Is Trump confused?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 24, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589 "2024-01-24T13:53:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1854 "2024-08-31T22:41:35Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> " … Friends of mine that are, like, English professors, they say it’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen”

Shouldn’t that be “… they say it’s the most brilliant thing _they’ve_ ever seen”? What kind of English professors are you hanging out with, Donnie?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1855 "2024-08-31T22:50:35Z")

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> Friends of mine that are, like, English professors

Hahahaha! Like he’s _ever_ had a friend who was an English professor.

Wait, strike that - Like he’s ever had a friend.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1856 "2024-08-31T22:50:40Z")

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**Trump:** That Williams guy from Welton Academy who taught me poetry. “Sir”, he said. “Sir, I have a phone call from God on the line. He’s calling collect.”

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1857 "2024-09-01T00:49:56Z")

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Trump rant in Pottersville, MI, on Thursday, August 29. The man is completely unhinged. All this word salad needs is some ranch dressing and cherry tomatoes and it could be a nice lunch. “She” here is of course Kamala Harris.

> She destroyed the city of San Francisco. And I own a big building there. It’s no … I shouldn’t talk about this, but that’s OK. I don’t give a damn, because this is what I’m doing. I should say it’s the finest city in the world! Sell and get the hell out of there, but I can’t do that. I don’t care. Billions of dollars. You know, someone said, ‘What do you think you lost?’ I said, ‘Probably two-three billion.’ That’s OK, I don’t care. They said, ‘Do you think you’d do it again?’ And that’s the least of it. Nobody! They always say … I don’t know if you know. Lincoln was horribly treated. Jefferson was pretty horribly. Andrew Jackson, they say, was the worst of all – that he was treated worse than any other president. And I said, ‘Do that study again,’ because I think there’s nobody close to Trump. I even got shot! And who the hell knows where that came from, right?

> <https://x.com/JesseCharlesLee/status/1829267975079354614>

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1858 "2024-09-01T01:07:33Z")

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Everybody knows that getting your ear nicked is worse than having your brains blown to bits.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1859 "2024-09-01T01:22:20Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> She destroyed the city of San Francisco. And I own a big building there

According to this Google guy, trump _owns_ no property in SF. His corp does own a 30% stake in two buildings, and according to some both properties are underwater on loans.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1860 "2024-09-01T01:27:45Z")

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Did you check on the list of “buildings in San Francisco destroyed by Kamala Harris”? It’s probably on there.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1861 "2024-09-01T01:53:13Z")

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Trump on Thursday: I’m voting yes on Amendment 4  
Trump on Friday: I’m voting no on Amendment 4  
Trump today: Harris is a flip-flopper

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1830048752511696919>

> <https://x.com/gina_goldberg/status/1830051084846408160>
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> Acyn @Acyn

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1862 "2024-09-01T03:41:47Z")

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Every accusation a confession.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1863 "2024-09-01T03:55:08Z")

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That’s just it - he’ll never run out of accusations. The faster they’re lobbed at him, the faster he’ll accuse her.

Next week he’ll be telling his rallies how Kamala changed her vote on abortion rights in Florida.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1864 "2024-09-01T11:13:07Z")

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What’s the “no one knows her last name” thing with Kamala?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1865 "2024-09-01T11:21:14Z")

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My best guess is that he’s trying to riff on people who do what you just and refer to her by her first name instead of as Harris (which I find annoying and mildly sexist, but that’s another topic), but it’s all garbled up in his head and is coming out as “nobody knows her last name”.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1866 "2024-09-01T11:21:30Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Shouldn’t that be “… they say it’s the most brilliant thing _they’ve_ ever seen”? What kind of English professors are you hanging out with, Donnie?

I _think_ there are implied quotation marks there:

They say “It’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen”.

> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> What’s the “no one knows her last name” thing with Kamala?

She is appropriately starting to be referred to as “Harris” more often now, but for a long time she was almost always “Kamala” (my neighbor has a 2020 Kamala bumper sticker on their car), so it is possible that someone, somewhere could blank on her last name.

And now I need a shower, having defended that ass twice.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1867 "2024-09-01T11:33:30Z")

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When you pay good money and try to build your brand _entirely_ on the back of _your own_ last name, it’s easy to see VP Harris as a nobody.

In that narrow, insane regard.

Still consistent for Trump: his insecurity plus rank projection.

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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1868 "2024-09-01T12:31:34Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> What’s the “no one knows her last name” thing with Kamala?

My guess is that it’s along the same line as the “she became black” line of attack. Like, “she has a weird ‘ethnic’ name, but she’s hiding the fact that she has a perfectly white-bread last name, so she’s faking being ‘ethnic’ for votes”.

(With a subtext of “the lefties only vote for ‘alternative’ people because they don’t care about actual issues and are all about identity politics (so long as that identity isn’t ‘white evangelical christian’)”.)

When he says “no one knows X” he means “there’s a conspiracy to hide X”.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1869 "2024-09-01T13:01:56Z")

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> [@leahcim](#):
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> When he says “no one knows X” he means “there’s a conspiracy to hide X”.

And when he says “No one knew X” he means “I didn’t know X”.

Although these days he may be conflating the two and admitting he can’t remember her last name.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1870 "2024-09-01T14:32:32Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> My best guess is that he’s trying to riff on people who do what you just and refer to her by her first name instead of as Harris (which I find annoying and mildly sexist, but that’s another topic)

It kinda started with Hillary Clinton, who I referred to as Hillary to distinguish her from Bill. But I admit somewhere along the way I realized it did come off a bit sexist.

With Kamala Harris, her first name is more distinct in America, so I think that stands out. But I have made an effort to refer to her as Harris for the same reason. If we refer to candidates by their last names, then be consistent.

We could all start referring to the orange guy as “Donald”, in contrast to Kamala. That works on a couple levels. Donald is so hyperfocused on his last name and branding, it would be a harsh dig to stop using it. Yet it doesn’t have the same negative for Kamala. And bonus, it makes people think of that other famous Donald, who has a speech impediment and doesn’t wear pants.

> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> What’s the “no one knows her last name” thing with Kamala?

I think @DavidNRockies is on the right track. Donald can’t imagine someone not knowing his last name and who he is by that name. So that’s his idea of a dig - “nobody knows her last name” - the horror!

He’s attempting to dismiss her as irrelevant because she’s been VP and still no one recognizes her name.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1871 "2024-09-01T14:54:43Z")

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FYI … there is a not-too-long thread on the first name vs. last name thing.

> [@Hillary & Kamala vs. Biden & Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-kamala-vs-biden-trump/1006327):
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> Now that I got you with the clickbait title: Why do you think that with female candidates we tend to use their first name more than we do with male candidates?

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1872 "2024-09-01T17:45:12Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> It kinda started with Hillary Clinton, who I referred to as Hillary to distinguish her from Bill. But I admit somewhere along the way I realized it did come off a bit sexist.

I remember before Justin Trudeau was elected, his opponents kept referring to him as “Justin” in their ads, and it was pointed out that this was meant to sound a little bit infantilizing, even without the sexism aspect. One refers to adults by their last name, and children by their first.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1873 "2024-09-01T17:53:25Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Donald is so hyperfocused on his last name and branding, it would be a harsh dig to stop using it.

Though, didn’t he try to brand himself “_The_ Donald” at one point?

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