# Is Trump facing his mortality and wanting to take the world down with him

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 31, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632 "2025-08-31T19:20:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/61 "2025-09-04T13:58:18Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Unless these guys are thinking of creating genetic clones of themselves to harvest organs from

> **[Parts: The Clonus Horror](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts:_The_Clonus_Horror)**
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> Parts: The Clonus Horror (also known as The Clonus Horror, or simply Clonus) is a 1979 science fiction horror film directed, co-written and produced by Robert S. Fiveson, and starring Peter Graves, Tim Donnelly, Dick Sargent, Keenan Wynn, Paulette Breen and Frank Ashmore. The film is about an isolated desert community where clones are bred to serve as a source of replacement organs for the wealthy and powerful.
> An independent production, Parts was released in the United States in August 1979. ...

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/62 "2025-09-04T14:07:10Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Except for reconnecting the brain stem to the top of a severed spinal cord. Details, details….

A child could do it!

Trump’s Brain.

Brain, and brain what is brain?!

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/63 "2025-09-04T14:38:49Z")

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Organ transplants connects with all the comparisons back in 2016 of how Trump was the Frankenstein’s monster the GOP had created but couldn’t control

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdorwGtUkAAGyjM?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdorwGtUkAAGyjM?format=jpg&name=900x900)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/64 "2025-09-04T14:46:55Z")

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> [@bobsmom101](#):
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> I’m reminded of the great Meryl Streep/Goldie Hawn film, _Death Becomes Her_:

I know it was a comedy so they didn’t think it through, but yes we have Meryl and Goldie “alive” years later, with holes inn their guts and body parts falling off, hurr hurr that’s funny stuff. They got what they deserve.

Except…everyone else (Garbo, Morrison, etc) are all in the same boat. They are going to be trapped forever, unable to die, slowly falling apart, just like the two leads. Funny stuff!

> [@asterion](#):
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> Continuous organ transplants to extend life? Come on.

Loathe as I am to defend Niven’s plot holes, in this case - the situation in Gil the ARM stories was overcome by events of the invention of Boosterspice. The situation of organlegging never lasted long enough for anyone to see the long-term effects of continuous organ replacement. The oldest living person at the time, Lucas Garner, was somewhere high of 180, and looked like a mummy (or a protector…hmmm). I’m not sure he got many/any? organs, but I don’t think it was ever mentioned.

> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Except for reconnecting the brain stem to the top of a severed spinal cord. Details, details…

The nearly-indistinguishable-from-magic (we won’t talk about the details) organ transplant tech of Known Space already can attach limbs and all the associated nerves with no problems and it works and feels just like the original. Transplanting a brain is just more of the the same. Whatever child’s play method they use, Dr McCoy, to attach thousands of nerves in an arm (an ARM arm…) just takes longer for the millions of a whole brain.

To me the real problem of transplanting your own brain to evade the police is the fact your henchpeople have no real motivation to actually finish the operation, and every reason NOT to, since now they know the truth and are a liability. Which was also a plot issue in _Face/Off._

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/65 "2025-09-04T22:19:29Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> To me the real problem of transplanting your own brain to evade the police is the fact your henchpeople have no real motivation to actually finish the operation, and every reason NOT to, since now they know the truth and are a liability. Which was also a plot issue in _Face/Off._

Yes, the fantasy of living longer (if not forever) via surgery or magic has inspired many well-known works. So far we’ve listed Mary Shelley’s _Frankenstein_, Huxley’s novel _After Many a Summer_, Larry Niven’s and Robert Silverberg’s explorations of the topic, and the movies _Face/Off, Death Becomes Her_, and _The Clonus Horror_.

Add _The Island_ and _Get Out_. And probably many others not coming to mind at the moment.

Of course most consumers of these stories don’t have the resources Xi (and to a lesser extent, Putin) have to put their ideas into practice—no matter how many die in the process.

At least Donald doesn’t have their scope of action. If he tried transplanting his brain into Don Jr.’s body, there’s be at least a pro-forma outcry.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/66 "2025-09-04T22:35:52Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> At least Donald doesn’t have their scope of action. If he tried transplanting his brain into Don Jr.’s body, there’s be at least a pro-forma outcry.

That’s what Bannon is for.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/67 "2025-09-05T13:12:56Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Is Trump still making the National Guard sleep in the lobbies of office buildings or was that last term?

For DC I’ve heard they are staying in hotels in Northern Virginia. The DC Guard is probably commuting from home. That is a logistical nightmare.

> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Sure, the park lands extending from the north end of Millennium park through the the “museum campus” areas are extensive enough to do that. Please don’t give the MAGAs any ideas.

Being activated federally doesn’t give them immunity from local and state laws including trespassing. He can put them on federal land but they just can’t occupy private, city or state property.

Or maybe they should. We haven’t had a good 3rd amendment court case in forever.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/68 "2025-09-05T17:11:25Z")

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It’s basically been what, Engblom v Carey and Mitchell v City of Henderson?

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/69 "2025-09-05T19:52:04Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> That’s what Bannon is for.

What, Donald into Bannon? Don Jr. into Bannon?

Either way: a just punishment. For all concerned—though if Bannon’s brain is then moved into a sewer rat, that would be an upgrade for Bannon.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/70 "2026-02-22T18:23:48Z")

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The biggest problem for me with Face Off was how obviously Travolta and Cage are so different in body type. body hair, hell body everything. It was ridiculous. Small example: Cage has beautiful hands with long fingers if he has any hair on his hands it is light and blondish. Travolta has blunt broad hands with thickish fingers, with a bush of black hair on each digit.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2026, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-facing-his-mortality-and-wanting-to-take-the-world-down-with-him/1022632/71 "2026-02-22T19:02:44Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> how obviously Travolta and Cage are so different in body type. body hair, hell body everything. It was ridiculous.

To give a quantum of a break to the film, I never notice that in real people I know.

Now if I were his wife, yeah, you can’t fake it to someone that knows them intimately,

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