# Is Trump giving up?

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**Created:** [August 13, 2024, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-giving-up/1005638 "2024-08-13T04:05:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-giving-up/1005638/17 "2024-08-13T12:30:06Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> There are his legal woes, of course; but I think there’s another thing to consider: that Biden leaving the race threw Trump for a loop.
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> He knew what to do about Biden. Trump would call him “Sleepy Joe,” rag on Hunter’s foibles, talk about the “Biden Crime Family” being on the take, and generally make fun of Biden’s decline mentally and physically. He’s used these remarks a lot in the past, and he could confidently carry them forward, with little effort.

You’re right, but it goes a little further than Biden being a familiar enemy. I think @aurora_maire nailed it in the 'Is trump confused?" thread-- it’s all about revenge. trump has long been vengeful toward anybody he sees as his enemy, and in his mind he was hoping to crush Biden, who he sees as having stolen the 2020 election from him. The desire to not just beat but humiliate Biden gave trump energy and focus (as much focus as he’s able to have, anyway). Now he feels robbed of his chance get back at Biden, and it’s left him listless and off-message. One of the main driving principles that keeps trump going is revenge. [Richard Branson tried to warn us before the 2016 election](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-richard-branson-destroy-5-people-230150).

> [@Is Trump confused?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trump-confused/996589/1468):
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> I’ve been thinking about why Trump is having such a hard time accepting that Harris is now his opponent. Running for president is not just about avoiding prison, he needs to beat Biden to get his revenge for 2020. He can’t believe that Biden dropped out because he would never do that and he keeps talking about Biden trying to get back on the ticket at the convention, because if the R’s forced him out he would try to storm the convention and hijack it. Anything else just doesn’t compute. But …

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